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Panthers have requested permission to interview Lions COO Mike Disner for GM position.

Fishing for a trade? We're hard up for picks. Think we'd take a second for him?

It's hard to say I miss the "Golden Days" of us having DJ and Curtis Samuel hugging it out before running out the tunnel. But looking back at that solid 1-2 WR group does make me yearn for those solid bronze days.

Honestly, I can pinpoint seeing this photo as the exact moment I went from cautiously optimistic to mildly concerned. Pre-season Week 1 was when the concern level started spiking.

This. The story doesn't make any sense given the timeline. Drink was thrown after a game-sealing interception. There may have been some jawing before that, but Tepper's drink toss was a rage quit like a twelve year old losing in Fortnight.

This is a message to whomever the new GM is. He's trying to preemptively set the bargaining expectations high. But I don't think it's going to work. No GM in this league is willing to pay Burns like a top 5 or even top 10 Edge rusher. Because he's not one. Let him sniff around the market and find out that teams are willing to pay him like an above-average pass-rusher and not a penny more. Then let him come crawling back to our new GM for an extension. I feel pretty confident he'll be a Panther next year. But he seriously needs his ego checked.

This is pretty much bang-on my projection as well. I sincerely doubt Bryce is our starter in 2025. I kindly doubt he finishes next season as our starter barring a miracle. 2025 will be when we start to turn things around, and we should be a wildcard contender by '26. This, of course, assumes Tepper continues what appears to be a Scroogian turnaround in terms of his involvement in football decisions. Otherwise, just copy and paste 2023 over and over.

There is one saving grace that he is still only 22. He's literally still growing. Don't get me wrong I don't have any illusions that he'll get more than an inch taller, but he's still filling out. There is one hope, and I was just talking about it this morning, that if he commits himself to weight gain and puts on 30 pounds of mass in the off-season, he could get stronger. Make him marginally harder to tackle, put more power behind his throws. It's a faint hope, but for next season it's all we got.

Keep him. His mediocre season mean he's in a much worse bargaining position. We should sign home for $15-20m and he should be grateful for it.

This season was the worst because the games were literally painful to watch. I care less about wins and losses than being entertained. I wasn't entertained once.

Chuba. He plays like he actually cares.

Stop trying to make pillows and hicky happen

Credit where it's due. This is exactly what many of us were asking for. It's exactly the right call. Anyone taking the opportunity to bitch in this thread is just looking for another opportunity to be a whiny baby poopy pants. I get it, you're mad at Tepper. But we're not getting rid of the owner of the team, so be happy that at least he's taking a step to not unilaterally make the decisions that have hurt the franchise so far in his tenure.

This, I feel, is the ultimate, "I told you so" outcome. I could go back to this time last year and pull hundreds of posts from dozens of posters who were saying the exact same thing: "We need to do everything possible to get a franchise QB. Darnold won't work. Baker won't work. No more retreads. I want to get off the 6 and 7-win roller coaster." Well, what do y'all know. You monkey pawed that wish. We got off all right. We're looking up through 20 feet of dog poo at 6 wins, and are liable to get worse before we get better. Mediocre is the launching pad for a good team. Pushing all your chips into the center and going bust helps no one. Embrace mediocrity, meatheads, because it can always be worse!

I'm fine with it. I'm just relieved the league didn't dock us a draft pick. A financial penalty for Tepper, no matter how small, at least doesn't set the team back further. It would be awful for the fan base to suffer (moreso) for that jackass's actions.

This move would make a lot of sense. As I mentioned in my other post, I think he does a fine job working the phones. I trust him to take a sixth round pick, and somehow turn it into two 5th round picks. But he just simply Can. Not. Evaluate. Talent. Remove the personnel management responsibilities, and I think he's a valuable executive to have in the organization.

I'm not arguing for him to keep his job. I'm arguing for everyone to keep their expectations low if he's replaced.

You have to blame the scouts. Fitterer is making the call on the pick, but he's doing that based on the information he's getting from the people whose job it is to evaluate the talent level of prospects, and their ability to translate to the professional game. I'll say it: I don't have a problem with the wheeling and dealing to be in on every deal and moving picks around. I think that's what Fitterer thinks the job of a GM is, and he does it very well. The problem is that none of the picks we've traded for have panned out. If we'd hit, the CMC trade would look better. Hell, even the trade to #1 would look a lot better if we'd taken Stroud. The problem is we have been consistently wrong on the talent we've been drafting, while much more talented players are being taken after them. We have an enormous talent evaluation problem. And while Fitterer is rightly in the crosshairs, don't expect that issue to be resolved if continue to have the same people with boots on the ground at the pro days and combines, who are watching the footwork, analyzing the BS next-gen metrics, looking at the health reports, and still drafting duds.

Erm, you do remember that the people who would be making that call thought Bryce Young was the best player in the draft, right?

Bryce will not be out QB on 2025. It's not that I don't want him to succeed. It's that I don't want to waste half a decade or more denying what is blatantly obvious. We missed. Badly. And way overspent in doing so. The only thing worse is falling victim to sunk cost fallacy.

Never pick the sire of a former player. Daddy's set financially. He doesn't NEED this.

It was very encouraging to see! However I'm going to wait and see how he performs in the finale and if the confidence and swagger carries over. Remember, Green Bay is the team that made Tommy DeVito look like a future starter and allowed Baker Mayfield to post the first perfect passer rating by a visiting QB in Packers history. Point being, I think this was a much needed get-right game against a poor Packers D that hopefully will bolster Bryce's confidence. But looking at how that D has been performing lately, I'm not ready to say that it's an indication that Bryce has finally turned the corner...yet. Once is an aberration. Twice is the start of a trend.

This. As proven my McCaffrey on the 49ers, a game-changing back is the thing that puts your already great team into a championship quality team. We're not close. If anything what we need is our bruiser. Our Foreman. Our Tolbert. The goal-line, 4th and 1 freight train. Especially since our QB is clearly not the guy you can count on once you get inside the 2 yard line.

He'd probably be among the league's leading rushers if a) we hadn't wasted so much time starting Sanders, and b) we weren't forcing the pass so much early in the season. The later part of this year has proven we actually have a pretty solid run-blocking line, and a quality rushing attack. And next year, Chuba could be a solid fantasy football RB2. He's that reliable. Hubbard has been one of the bright spots this dismal season. He's not only proven himself to be our future every down back, but I've been really impressed by his pass blocking.

Ugh. Well add Washington to the list of Head Coaching vacancies that are FAR more attractive than Carolina. Herbert in LA. Howell in DC. Honestly the only job that may be worse if you're a HC candidate is New England. How do you follow that act?