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Yeah, his lack of arm talent just removes to many plays from the table. I mean a window can open and a Josh Allen could get it there…..Bryce might not. Bryce would need to get set and get his his body behind it and that takes time and even then it might not be enough. also his size is an issue. Other QBs will be able to occasionally extend plays he can’t. They add up over time. I also think it impacts his pocket play in the NFL over the middle. Does he make plays over the middle? Sure. But I think it impacts his positioning in the pocket and doesn’t allow him to step up where others can.

I think there was also a stat somewhere, that since David Tepper bought the Panthers....the Panthers own the worst win % in all of professional sports. maybe there is some professional water polo team out there or something though that wasn't accounted for. I assume it's just major sports.

You left out the worst stretch in franchise history since he bought the team as well, as creating the worst overall roster in franchise history in 2023. The 2010 Clausen Panthers thump this squad on a Sunday. Because all they had was a QB issue.

I mean, I have been a big pusher of all the other issues in Carolina. Bad scheme. Bad OL. Bad WRs. And it all being a bad marriage that doesn't fit what you would want to do with a QB like Bryce. all that said, Bryce Young has his owns issues and some of those aren't ones you expect in a #1 overall QB.

I mean, that's a unique analogy. Delhomme was a fearless gunslinger. Like a crappy version of Brett Favre without the tools. I don't think Delhomme when I think Bryce Young. I think his ceiling is Teddy Bridgewater (but with better wheels).

I mean, if you look at the last 15 #1 overall picks before Bryce Young.....12 of the 15 were Pro Bowl players. And one of those that wasn't was the last pick only going on his 2nd year. It's been about as auto of a non-bust as draft picks can get of late. They haven't all been franchise changers but that's a hard pick to give away.

basically. and then two horrific draft guys in Scott Fitterer and Bill Belichick can combine super powers to create the worst draft class in the history of the NFL. and all of Bill's BS sells about as well as Matt Rhule's DBO sign when Tom Brady ain't around to carry Bill's teams.

Where is Carolina's best YAC aid to the QB? #70 something Mingo lol.

you could take our entire OL and give it to the 49ers.....and their O is going to work. It might not be ideal but their O is going to still give people problems. They have a good scheme. They have a smart coach. They got talent that makes plays for their QB. Defenses have to cover every inch of the field.

Think you got to do both. Every OL eventually gets beat if you can't make plays in the pass game. DLs are just too talented. Everyone's time is limited. You got to have WRs that get open. You got to have a QB that can make the throws and play well in the pocket. It's hard to gauge how bad the OL is right now overall. We got a bad scheme. Weak WRs. A rookie QB with a variety of pocket issues that is struggling to make all the throws.

I still think the rebuild fell into our laps. They botched it. I think Cam should of played out his final year but let's just accept they moved on to Teddy. Now imagine, they simply drafted the QB that fell into their laps. Justin Fields. They never then needed to trade DJ or CMC. And we have all the picks we burned through on the QB issue to invest in making the team better. Imagine Fields with DJ (we see that now) and then add CMC. I mean, even if you don't love Fields. We probably are an exciting to watch (maybe frustrating) team that is way better than what we got now. I mean, let's say you hate Justin Fields. Fine. But the obvious rebuild and that fell in our laps has us way better and more entertaining. And at the end of of it, maybe the roster legitimately is just a QB away if Fields proved not to be the guy at the end of it.

I mean, I think we should of traded Brian Burns this offseason. That doesn't mean I would be happy with just any trade. And what they then did with those resources and after would be relevant. That's the CMC issue. I had no issue w/ trading CMC. If we were going to rebuild. A highly paid win now RB is a tradeable asset for a ground up rebuilding team. But they didn't get what they should of for him....and then this brain trust has done nothing but piss away our resources for nothing. Then claimed were are a win now team. And then instead of acquiring a solid do everything RB for cheap....they then overpaid a one dimensional meh RB.

was it really better than TMJ? I'm not sure. I still go back to the odd ISM/Thomas Brown/Frank mini spat. Where the company line was Mingo was just way to go to ever take off the field for anyone else. I almost feel like this staff was given orders on Bryce/Mingo/etc. Bryce was starting week 1 no matter what. I think that was top down call from Tepper who needed Bryce and that "excitement" for his franchise. Mingo got absurd targets given how bad he was as a young WR. I mean if we gave TMJ 90 targets or whatever Mingo ended up with....he would have been more productive too. Mingo's play wasn't earning that % IMO.

I mean, Marty was sports writer, turned PR guy, turned front office admin guy. Marty did sensible and smart things high valued picks. Which was largely get the dude my HC wants. Calling him a scout and expert on college talent....just shows Tepper doesn't know up from down. I think managing the draft was probably the only aspect of the job Marty grades out decently on. I mean, if the measuring stick is vs your peers. I still wasn't horrible. Because a lot of teams are really bad at drafting. Even with good picks to inflate their picks like Marty had.

maybe James White? Bill is a horrible drafter.

Marty Hurney did one thing great. He didn't just hit homeruns in the first round.....he used that first round pick on someone his HCs legitimately wanted. Marty was definitely a coaches GM. His picks fit the vision of the HC. Which you got to think at least doesn't hurt the odds of the success of highly talented players. I mean, a lot of people weren't thrilled in real time w/ Luke. With CMC. Or a Stewart. Or a Stewart and then Otah move. But all those moves were 100% plays to what the HC wanted to do. Marty shared in his HCs vision of playing football in Carolina. Fitterer's first pick, that's where the red flag started. We were a team that needed to rebuild and he is out there drafting his Seattle corner. He was no asset to Rhule or Frank.

reports have always been Tepper took issue with people that pushed back on him and knew football. I think that's why he likes Fitterer. Fitterer makes a guy that knows nothing about football think he is smart. He didn't fire Fitt for stabbing Frank in the back because Fitterer is team Tepper. Which is why Fitterer hanging around will be horrible for a new GM search. Most good candidates can probably figure out what a poo show is still cooking if Fitterer is still in place. You just wait another cycle so your career isn't immediately derailed for a quick check.

DJ was locked up already and was the piece that actually matched with developing a rookie QB. Burns was the no brainer. Essentially a win now piece on a team entering full rebuild fixated on grooming up a young QB, he wasn't locked up, with a contract dispute on the horizon. It's just a bad front office. No vision and in denial about what needed to be done. They have been claiming this hybrid rebuild/win now mantra for years. We needed a legit rebuild the day the Ron/Cam era ended.

watch Scott Fitterer hang around and decide he needs to lock up boy Jaycee Horn up early after Denver does it for Patrick Surtain this offseason. That would totally be a Fitterer move. Just imagine the worst possible thing and your odds of being right get higher.

Can't wait to trade Brian Burns for some JAG QB because we are unsure about Bryce Young.... It's beyond comedy how far this roster has been set back as they have dealt with the QB issue.

yeah, we have put the Bears in a tremendous position. No doubt. They are still the Bears so they likely fug it up. But the Bears are essentially where we dream to be.

Fitterer might stay simply because Tepper clearly dislikes people that actually know what they are doing in terms of football. My guess is Tepper likes people that make him feel like the smartest guy in the room, no matter the room. Scott Fitterer no doubt will be a +1 if he stays for Tepper anytime Tepper decides they need some group think on his football team.

My stance is the same as this time last year. I want a HC/GM paired up. Same page. Same philosophy. Same vision. Same timelines. I’d hire them at about the same time and I would prioritize my HC first. Then setup him up with a GM that would look to be a great compliment and that would work well with him. Which a is 180 of what we just did with Fitt and Frank. Exceptions to that but my stance is largely just that. I got no real thought on who I want as GM yet because I don’t know who I want as my HC. And I prioritize HC over GM. I think a HC and GM need to be similar in how they view winning in todays NFL. Where the emphasis needs to be. And I really think we have a culture issue at this point. I mean we don’t have it. So the pairing and match of the two is important.

that’s you saying you are okay with his dismissal for stabbing Frank in the back….its not you accepting or acknowledging the poo job he did as a GM here. Which leads you to fantasizing about how Fitt really is still good and it would totally work if he kept most of GM duties with a new name. IF ONLY he hadn’t stabbed Frank in the back lol.

The guy that stood up to confront him was 100% a Jags fan. Angle shows the Jag emblem on the front of his hat. Can’t really tell who he technically threw it at though.