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Dropped snaps, batted down passes that Cleveland specifically prepared for and some easy stats on some broken 1st week plays. We could do a lot worse but we can and should try to do a lot better. He is who he always has been. He will never be a Brees. He will be lucky to top 4k in yards with his play style that relys on pounding the ball first.

I think 20 touches is about right. The playcalling just made it look worse. We should have come out running, not passing. Work the passing game in slowly after that. Use CmC early, then rotate heavy and have him ready for the end of the first half. Just more poor scheming and playcalling. We need better coaches.

Both guys I didn't want as HC. McCarthy is toast anyways with Jones in charge. I can see Rhule as a worse coach but also outlasting McCarthy for a few weeks if Jones pulls the triger after a bad start for them.

No LBer would look good behind this line. Even Luke was damn near nulified by a weak run stoping line in another mismached D scheme before he retired.

Scheme is a failure in the NFL and the players are mismatched. The Dline should be more size and power yet it is small and fast.

Who are his competitors now in that race? He stands out this year.

We will win some games but yeah it is that bad. The Rhule implosion begins. Soon the chants start. The media will be ruthless to the weakest to pick on in the 24 hour cycle for entertainment. Rhule is in for a rough ride. Mirroring that 3rd year in school really isn’t happening.

We have the Brand with the Process. What could go wrong?

Wilson had a nice blitz on an oblivious backup QB. Didn't seem like much and no real pressure from the front 4. It's just not a balanced D, in itself or with the O they run.

I agree but I also don't see anything but worse if Tepper picked his own GM from scratch. He has shown no signs of competency to date. Might was well give Friterer a couple of years with a new HC and hope Tepper comes out somewhat more knowledgeable if he was doing a complete house cleaning. Give me Peters from the 49ers and I would be thrilled to see who he hires as a HC. Lots of possible GMs and HCs, I just don't trust Tepper in all of that.

Tepper needed Hurney to hire Rhule. No way he hires a competent GM solo at this time. Friterer will get a swing at it and I hope he works out...or that Tepper learns enough by then to make the kind of hires at GM and HC that we all wanted pre-Rhule.

I still think that is likely but what to see him in another scheme. Terrible value for a top 10 pick to date without a doubt.

It was obvious they wanted to come out and sling the ball around and had no idea what they were walking into. Rhule has preached about running the ball for 3 years and always gets away from it. Even with a rookie LT he still came out throwing it this game. The man is BS through and though. He wants these guys to look like Mahomes or Allen and they are all thrown away top picks for obvious reasons that he ignores to set them up for a career worst year.

All 100% but this was the worst part for me. They were leaning on him in the first half instead of working him in and protecting him. That is just incompetent especially when they didn't give him all of the 1st team reps in the preseason.

Let me clarify. Bake is a QB that is best suited to a run first offense. Not the spread, pass heavy you saw today. It is what covers up most of his weaknesses and allows him to thrive.

100%. It is not set up well and used even less well. I have zero faith these people can turn it around. Baker is who he always was. Run the ball, let him make a few plays and don't put it on his back. When we came out and threw it 3 times to open the game with a 3 & out I knew it was not going to be a true run first offense that would work best for him. Don't ask him to be who he isn't and he will not be our biggest problems.

He is a better QB than Sam. He is also a run first and often QB. In that capacity he can be effective. Force it and he will be awful. It's really simple with a 4 year sample on where he thrives.

You are not wrong and it is an important distinction from last year. He will be who he was in Cleveland, some dry games and some stat padding games. He will not carry a win often.

That was always going to be the outcome. He isn't on the roster next season and that is a great thing moving forward if he won't come back for another low cost contract for us. Spent a 5th on a maybe.

You should be right but I am expecting implosion. All the elements are there and now the pressure is being added. They will win some games but I don't think it will be more than last year even if they are more competitive.

I was told it is much improved. Wait for the process and watch the brand... The scheme is a failure and now the roster is tied to it. Just hire an offensive minded HC and a 3-4 DC. I don't think the transition would be great outside of a true NT.

Frist Cleveland win on opening week in 10 years I looked up and I think they said 14 years on the broadcast. Change the coach. Dream about the owner. And hope for a top QB in 2023.