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i’ve lived my life with the belief that every hole is an opportunity

Cam rolled off the toilet after taco Tuesday to throw alley-oops to the opposing team for 10m….don’t see that happening. although that was Tepper

as long as they draft a qb who cares

Indeed, we will see and it will probably take two seasons, but Fitt is and was hired as a yes man. Clearly. A GM worth his salt isn’t going to say yea I’ll come work for a CEO Baylor coach and just do the paperwork. Tepper can bark all day long about how he loves people who argue/disagree with him but he 100% does NOT. That is why Harbaugh and Payton are not his type of coaches. Too vocal. Too knowledgeable. Nevertheless, I digress, getting the axe before Reich just starts the whole cycle over again. And by cycle I mean Tepper’s embarrassing assbackward dynamic of owner/GM/coach. Owners hire GMs with help and insight and the GM hires the HC, HC hires staff. That’s normal. Hurney hires Rhule, Rhule hired Fitt, now we have Fitt hiring Reich (actually I think a bunch of people voted on it really) and if Fit goes what’s next? Lol more shenanigans from path maker Tepper and co.

Actually Tepper set this franchise back and not just with Rhule. With Hurney and now with Rhule’s GM. Also with himself. He thinks he can make decisions. He can’t. This is LITERALLY what the 49ers went through until the owner stepped back and hired help, and took hands off approach. I mean Tepper literally just had a vote for his HC…including severely under qualified people when considering qualifications for hiring a HC. And that’s being nice. You would think THIS would be a popular opinion but I’ve learned a majority of this board only watches the Panthers and are in a tunnel, and that change from when they do bad is always a good thing and brings hope. Even when it’s from the same source. Hope isn’t a strategy though and general NFL enthusiasts know until Tep takes his hands off, it’s not good. The fact moves like keeping Rhule’s GM are a good idea and Tepper is going to turn around the ship on his own despite solidifying the worst stretch in 30 years is not even debated but given the benefit of the doubt/accepted as truth absolutely dumbfounds me. And thus, we need a franchise QB so badly to bail us out. This is why my opinion has changed from not wanting to trade assets to trading the future and move up for one.

Going to disagree. At one point, aside from a couple hundred yards Cam had a 1k WR, 1k TE and 1k RB. Also he was at his best spreading the ball (2015). Also, Cam’s oline ranked 17 his entire career (average). While that is not great, it certainly isn’t like Russell Wilson or Luck had. Albeit Luck’s career was ruined by it. What truly did Cam in aside from obvious injuries (which were strong contributing factors no doubt) was two related things that what were already mentioned in this thread - coaching and Cam’s negligence on correcting his issues (footwork, anticipation, throwing motion), and the latter was a result of the former. Not only did dinosaur Ron and Shula not understand the modern greatness Cam possessed (but more importantly were not capable/competent enough anyways to foster it), and thus use him carelessly, they also allowed Cam to be sloppy and rely on his legs and toughness. And Cam never grew as a QB. At the time there were reports Shula wasn’t helping Cam grow and was more like a buddy than a coach. No pointers, no criticism. That cost them, and it cost Cam. There was that season Cam did work on this throwing motion and it was all the off-season rage because even fans could see his style wouldn’t last. And at the beginning of that season (I forget which), even Ron and Shula tried to use Cam like a normal, stereo typical QB and he rarely ran for the first few games. It was awful. All of us on the forums and stands saw it and were like wtf is going on? Unleash Cam! But the damage had been done. Really too late in his career to try and start over and you could tell. Habits were there. It was set how this team would win with Cam. By the fourth game, schemes and game plans did a 180 back to what worked and Ron unleashed Supercam we all know and love and yep, the Panthers started dominating. Now running is what made Cam special, but at some point it just became ridiculous and lazy how Ron and Shula would call plays and coach Cam. In fact the 2015 team were not only fighting opponents, they were fighting inept coaching and play calling. I’ve watched the season several times and it was truly a miracle team with the dumbass poo they had to fight through from their own sidelines. Feel free to go back and see with that in mind. It is really too bad and who is to say if we had or Cam went to a coach like Payton, Reid, or Mcvay and he was coached and utilized properly things would have turned out different since like I said injuries played a big role as well. We will never know.

It’s not just Rhule or Ron, it’s this franchise. Tepper is still calling the shots so more embarrassment like this in the future is likely. On a side note that’s why this trade was a good one. The Panthers are years from understanding how to use a player like CMC let alone just win games.

Tepper, his wife, the team president, Rhule’s GM, and our customer service rep all voted for Reich. What could go wrong?

Highly doubtful. I 100% bet this is twisting words and was something like ‘despite the season he had’. Because he is locked down and a coach with options, who does not think he can win with a QB he is stuck with, probably won’t take the job. Also, I am going against the grain here but I think Payton will find success if his defense is at least average and Wilson will recover. He literally had ONE bad season and people think it’s all over. With proper coaching in place I think he’ll come back.

According to some on this board, we are a contending team and outside players and coaches who want a ring are looking our way.

This is Tepper’s toy. He’s ‘learning’ what others already know because he surrounds himself with people who have zero experience in hiring a HC except Hurney but he never should kept on. A vote from Fitt, Morgan, his wife, and team president? Eh, they may do well at respective jobs but that’s really strange way to hire a HC. I really wish he’d try and learn from better sources…Rhule, Hurney, Fitt…these bad people to learn from. But it’s pretty obvious Tepper wants so bad to figure this toy out on his own and take credit, just sucks as fans be dragged through it. Even JR had more football sense and he hired help.

jesus cut his overpaid dumbass already

Not really. I didn’t make a prediction. I essentially said coaches aren’t looking at Carolina as a place to get a ring. And there isn’t much…or really anything going for the franchise. Hence he took the bag…he did it for money. Or another reason. Can you logical explain (with examples or even trends and not unknowns) why in the world with a coach with options would say Carolina is close to a ring and that’s what they want to be a part of? You people think this team has something going for it before it actually does. It doesn’t. When it does, we will know. Seriously.

Yea, he took that bag

I’ve lived in more than 15 major cities and Charlotte may be bland, buts it’s nice. So nice it makes it near the top imo. And I’ll take nice over ‘character/soul’ but shittyness any day and a lot of more interesting cities also have shittier shittyness. Especially when you consider the cost.It’s not a top city to live but it’s better than average all around in my experience. Now days a lot of cities are losing just being nice (clean, maintained, space) so it’s become a big factor for me.

exactly anyone who has winning as a priority isn’t going to come here vs . Minny lol going to be hard to attract the best, there is really nothing going for the Panthers except a shitty division. Dumb as rocks owner, fuged cap, HC is ‘ok’, a GM Rhule hired… oh and it’s warm in Charlotte…that’s good I guess. just one more reason to draft that elite talent QB.

It’s not only possible, it’s likely.

The Rams have superior coaching and had a much superior team. The Panthers are not Carr away from being close to that team. That may not be the case soon as they sold the future but was then. The Panthers can’t get away with that. I’d say the team is still a couple years away and Reich is not even close to Mcvay level despite the hype on here. So even with that team, with Reich it may not even be possible. I just don’t understand the problem with drafting a QB. Why can’t we expect our franchise to scout and select the future properly. Why must we go from from Cam to TB to Darnold to Cam to Balker to Darnold? Hell if we just stopped being stupid we could have Herbert right now. But no. There is really no need. The perennial contenders do not have a plug in QB, they drafted them. I’m interested in consistency and a real chance not a NFCS title with 8 wins. I would bet this draft has more than one franchise guy.

Reich likes cerebral QB. And Carr technically fits the bill. Meaning a smart QB that can pick apart areas of the field with Reichs gameplan. Mobility is almost a requirement now days for success unless an elite passer so that’s a given really. But I still say f no. You have to look at if this QB can go head to head with Hurts and Mahomes (if going that far) and pick apart SF type defenses, with Vikings and Cowboys in the long run in order to make it all the way and Carr can’t do that. Some people here are so used to this shitshow Tepper has built they see a weak NFCS and think a division title is the end all. It’s not. We should be thinking more long term and bigger picture like stated above. For the record I like him but he relies a lot on luck. And I like a rookie deal with an elite talent, despite the growing pains, far more than overpaying for a QB that will never go all the way.

Please god no

Like I said beginning of the season, falcons building right. Lots of cap and same number of wins as us lol Bucs got their trophy Saints did too, and got close again meanwhile panthers look like idiots, years ago our cap was extremely healthy and just got fuged to hell for no reason

I used to know a dude who loved getting wings on the weekend, almost every football Sunday. Friends for 22 years. He dropped dead at 43 from a heart attack. How you guys stuff that down your gullet I’ll never understand.

Lol that’s fake stress. he has enough money to take care of his family for several generation.

Not only did Rhule hire Fitt, Fitt was willing to come to a team where a Baylor college coach was CEO and he basically just signed off on things. You guys realize that isn’t how things work and not in a million years would any respectable GM come into a situation where a small college coach is the ‘CEO’ right? Honestly, it’s a worse story than hiring a journalist to be your GM.