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Howell reminds me a lot more of RW than willis does. I don't really see any similarities in those two.

I'm not sold on him entirely (I'm not sold on any of the qbs fully even though I want us to take one) but he does give me a little bit of Russel Wilson coming out of college vibes.

But he can run kind of fast and throw really far as long as it's his first read, well sometimes he will miss his first read too but still!

I dont think he was ever especially interested in Pickett. I think that was all smokescreen and people hated the idea of Pickett so they wanted to believe it was true because they hate Rhule.

Yea I think they were clearly fielding offers to see if they got any really worth trading back and they didnt. People have to remember just because you want to trade back doesnt mean there is always going to be an offer on the table that makes it worth it.

In his interview he said teens was where they would want to move to and 20 would be the absolute furthest back.

No worries. It could definitely be read either way but it seems like they for sure want to try to trade back if they get a good deal.

He means trading back from #6

I still remember some of those double trouble glory days where they just ran behind the right side of the line over and over and couldnt be stopped. A monday night football game against the giants I believe it was really stands out to me.

I dont get this evaluation at all. Willis's reads in general are one of his biggest question Mark's that I've seen.

The elite picks are OT and edge rusher. If one of the top OT dont fall then we could still use another edge rusher.

I agree. I watch all his breakdown videos and they are great. Then his comments and rankings dont line up with his comments in the individual videos at all. I dont really get that part of it. Also the shot at the panthers seems a bit misplaced. On paper (which is all we can go by right now) our oline is well improved, CMC is healthy for now, we have a really solid wr room overall, and an OC that is known to be good for qbs. I feel like his summary video is just parroting the mainstream media takes for some reason while his individual game breakdowns are much better.

If you cant hold your end of the deal then you dont make the deal to begin with. That's on them. No one else.

I agree. Even in terms of skillset they arent even the same. I dont get the redundant thing unless they are maybe saying record wise but even then I think we probably win one or two more games with Mayfield.

Most of the biggest busts at qb have all fit that mold. People think everything but speed and a big arm is coachable or will be improved and that's not the case a lot of the time. Our coaches already did that exact thing with Darnold.

Darnold always owned his struggles.

It figures you would be one of the ones who think JB is a bad coach.

Those comps dont make much sense though.

To be fair, outside of Lawrence everyone tried to say this exact same thing at this point last year. At this time last year Howell and Rattler were considered cant miss prospects.

Willis also went against much worse defenses than the acc.

So with every other qb prospect it's ok to entirely focus on their weaknesses but with Willis you can only focus on his strengths and if you mention his clear weaknesses its just because you hate "mobile" quarterbacks? Willis has just as many questions marks as any other potential first round qb.

Most people seem to act like Willis is the only qb with mobility in this draft though? Every qb that could potentially go in the first or second round besides Strong I would consider very mobile for a qb for NFL standards.

I agree with you to an extent but the agonizing over the thought of drafting a mobile quarterback works both ways. There are way more people here who overrate mobility than hate the idea of having a mobile qb.

Yes. Obviously. What's your move you're making right now?

What would you do at qb right now?