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nothing questionable about it. Marsh STARED at the other side....i mean he STARED at them. Really stared at them...with both eyes!!!!!!! i bet he even had one of his eyebrows raised. i mean that's some intimidating poo.

good luck with that. he's the sam darnold of kickers.

The overall OL talent level coming out of college has been lagging behind most other position groups for a long time. College teams have figured how to get by with JAGs on the line and I think this is probably the mindset that Rhule came to the pros with. Big problem is this isn't college and just because it worked there doesn't mean it will work here. OL matters. You live or die in the trenches. You can't just throw guys with grit in there and bounce them around the line hoping that something works. You get guys with a proven track record of sustained success at a specific position and you put them in it and you keep them in it. This is a kick in the nuts lesson that I hope drops him to the ground weekly and that his stubborn ass learns from.

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Balls were landing in his hands and he wasn't holding on to them. He shares the blame.

Rhule is too much of a belichick and Mac Jones fan to really do anything about it. Pregame pressers he was slobbering all over them.

Adapt and revamp.

I've said this before (not that it matters) but a good OC would find a way to make it work....to make something work. I'm sure he's smart, but he's lacking experience and an ability to adjust, adapt, and situationally scheme and play call. Move on.

with what QB and OL?

there's growing pains and then there's polio.

lol

but we're finding those hidden gems, right?

"yes"

close enough for a one letter word.

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was that him or rhule or a team effort?

yep. i mean you can try walker out but you won''t find it's any better at all. you roll with darnold because of the investment made in him and let it be a lesson to him and everyone else involved in the decision to bring him in without taking the OL seriously or trying to get clever without the knowledge and experience needed to do something clever. darnold needs to find out if he's got what it takes to be a starter in this league that can handle adversity (which he won't). and you let that lesson that this whole thing was a bad idea be driven into the ground all season so they don't have a chance to forget or make excuses. we'll suffer, but we were going to anyways.

good. he should be. and the coaching staff deserves whatever is coming for them. i make an investment like that, you expect it to pay off.

I'll just say that if this team intentionally tanks, I'll have no further respect for them and will probably quit this fan thing for a while. You fight. If you're a player or a coach, you fight until the end. If you don't, you shouldn't have a job. That said, we're already spiraling downwards so tanking doesn't need to happen. We're pretty much sunk. I just don't want any player on this team to be ok with losing....ever. And if this team does intionally tank, no one with any self respect is goi g to want to o play here and I wouldn't blame them. As for fans than want this team to tank as in intentionally losing...

I do some of my best thinking there so this is what I think should happen. 1) ride this ugly horse home. Yeah, it sucks and I'm pissed, but we just have to ride it out. Why? So Tepper and Rhule and Fitt can learn some lessons, especially Rhule. First, Tepper needs to learn that maybe handing the keys to a kid right out of college without adult supervision might not have been the best idea and turn personnel decisions over to the guy who knows what he's doing, Fitt. It won't happen, bit it needs to. Rhule, since he'll still be at the wheel, needs to learn that this isn't a game. I mean it is a game, but you don't have to act like it is where you get "creative" in making personnel decisions. Don't take frikkin risks on reclamation projects at any position. Learn that you need to take OL more seriously and get guys that are proven good rather than guys you see something in. And btw, there are more colleges than Baylor and Temple. Branch out a little, numbnut. Then in the off-season... 2) Spend big money and draft capital getting the OL fixed. Target #1 Terron Armstead. Target #2 Ben Jones from Tenn. And then go big after some stud vet OG. Then take what will be your early draft pick and trade back picking up a second rounder and get the two best OGs in the draft. Fill the rest of the draft beefing up the OL. 3) Pick up some old QB like Fitzpatrick, keep Darnold (I suppose), and get Tyrod Taylor. We're not looking for the QB of the future here. Not yet. There's nothing special about these guys but at least the two FAs would provide some much needed vet wisdom and leadership for now and solid mentorship for whatever QB we draft the next year after the OL has been settled. Might even do Sammy some good. That's all. My legs are cramping up so I got to get off the toilet. You're welcome.

I don't even care anymore.

Fuggin coaching staff was beat before the game even started bowing at the altar of belichick. And Sam....I don't want him to talk at all. I don't want any of them to talk. They're just throwing poo out there right now. They don't have a clue.

Too grown up of a show.