89 Conference Call

[CollegePanther]

Keeping Smitty would have definitely stunted KB's growth. No doubt about that. So I'm glad we got rid of him in that sense but damn I miss this guys attitude on game day.

[top dawg]

The idea that Gettleman would make decisions based off personal likes and dislikes is silly.

 

That's the kind of theory that comes from a pissed off fan upset about his favorite player being cut, not someone looking at the situation rationally.

 

 

 

You are old enough to know that if the boss doesn't like a person, he will get rid of them. That's just life.  But, to clarify, he didn't like Steve's antics and how they fit in with his vision of team chemistry.

[heel31ok]

The idea that Gettleman would make decisions based off personal likes and dislikes is silly.

 

That's the kind of theory that comes from a pissed off fan upset about his favorite player being cut, not someone looking at the situation rationally.

 

 

Yes it is silly  but it is the rational view as has been discussed many, many times. Theory is figuring out how many yds and TD a player is probably going to make. This has been established G-man did not like the "antics" of SS , that is fact.Also he was cut to let Cam take over the team. so it was also to please at least one player. I know you didn't mean to paint your self in a corner but you did.you are not wrong on your points you just forgot those were someof the reasons G-man did what he did. No biggie, I know you are a fan and a loyal one so I don't hold that against you .

 

[heel31ok]

Keeping Smitty would have definitely stunted KB's growth. No doubt about that. So I'm glad we got rid of him in that sense but damn I miss this guys attitude on game day.

 

If there was no doubt about that we would not be having this discussion. How would that have happened as the aforementioned attitude on game day alone would have been a great learning tool for KB. You gave a point against your point.

[Mr. Scot]

You are old enough to know that if the boss doesn't like a person, he will get rid of them. That's just life.  But, to clarify, he didn't like Steve's antics and how they fit in with his vision of team chemistry.

 

A boss in a small office maybe.

 

The boss of a multimillion dollar football team doesn't let personal feelings enter into his decisions unless he's a complete moron.

 

Gettleman made this decision because he believed it was the best thing for the team.  I seriously doubt he personally likes everybody he's kept on the team, nor does he dislike everyone he's cut.

 

He's a talent evaluator and a football guy.  That's what he does.

[top dawg]

A boss in a small office maybe.

 

The boss of a multimillion dollar football team doesn't let personal feelings enter into his decisions unless he's a complete moron.

 

Gettleman made this decision because he believed it was the best thing for the team.  I seriously doubt he personally likes everybody he's kept on the team, nor does he dislike everyone he's cut.

 

He's a talent evaluator and a football guy.  That's what he does.

 

Yeah yeah.  Mega corporations get rid of the old and experienced everyday not only to trim the budget, but to get some new guys in that they can mold to their liking.  

 

Newsome, Belichick, and John Schneider are talent evaluators and football guys as well.  I am almost sure that any one of them would have signed Smith.  

 

I already said that G-man didn't feel that Smith's antics were fitting in with his vision for team chemistry (which obviously means he didn't feel that it was good to keep Smith on the team), so that's not even a point of contention (though I still believe overall we would have been better to keep him, but that's my opinion).  The buck stops with G-man.  In the end, I respect the decision to get rid of Smitty, just not how it was done.  I don't agree with it though.

[Mr. Scot]

Yeah yeah.  Mega corporations get rid of the old and experienced everyday not only to trim the budget, but to get some new guys in that they can mold to their liking.  

 

Newsome, Belichick, and John Schneider are talent evaluators and football guys as well.  I am almost sure that any one of them would have signed Smith.  

 

I already said that G-man didn't feel that Smith's antics were fitting in with his vision for team chemistry (which obviously means he didn't feel that it was good to keep Smith on the team), so that's not even a point of contention (though I still believe overall we would have been better to keep him, but that's my opinion).  The buck stops with G-man.  In the end, I respect the decision to get rid of Smitty, just not how it was done.  I don't agree with it though.

 

The decision to sign the guy who was cut elsewhere is not the same as the decision whether to keep the guy on your team.  One has history, the other doesn't.

 

You can't say for certain that other guys would have kept Smith if he had the same history on their team as he had here.  Heck, some might have cut him years ago (Belichick especially).

 

[Cpt slay a ho]

Lmao at people saying he didn't mentor wrs..........who da fug mentored Calvin Johnson,Aj green,josh Gordon,Kennan Allen,Julio jones,dez Bryant,Andre Johnson ......even Blackmon can be on this list

Also quit with the steve smith is about himself bologna it's retarded to think so, along with the Benjamin wouldn't have progressed if smith was on the team......just stop he stated he wanted to be in the slot years ago

[heel31ok]

A boss in a small office maybe.

 

The boss of a multimillion dollar football team doesn't let personal feelings enter into his decisions unless he's a complete moron.

 

Gettleman made this decision because he believed it was the best thing for the team.  I seriously doubt he personally likes everybody he's kept on the team, nor does he dislike everyone he's cut.

 

He's a talent evaluator and a football guy.  That's what he does.

 

your are a good fan.

 

[CollegePanther]

If there was no doubt about that we would not be having this discussion. How would that have happened as the aforementioned attitude on game day alone would have been a great learning tool for KB. You gave a point against your point.

an attitude doesn't make you a great player, just a fun player to watch

[heel31ok]

an attitude doesn't make you a great player, just a fun player to watch

 

It made him a great player and fun to watch.

 

[top dawg]

The decision to sign the guy who was cut elsewhere is not the same as the decision whether to keep the guy on your team.  One has history, the other doesn't.

 

You can't say for certain that other guys would have kept Smith if he had the same history on their team as he had here.  Heck, some might have cut him years ago (Belichick especially).

 

 

That's true. The thing is, nobody knows. It's all just speculation. 

[CRA]

Look, man, I don't give a poo why Steve Smith is not a Panther today. That's already been discussed. My opinion is that he still should be a Panther today because he is as tough and competitive a football player as you will ever see, and he still has enough left in the tank where he would have helped our offense this year. Like 89, that's the bottom line.

We put up with Smitty for 13 years, and we could have put up with it a couple of more. When he was on the team, people loved him on the field. Now that he's gone, people are talking about him like he is an old, broke down demon. I don't like it, and I don't buy it. Simple as that.

We can agree to disagree all we want about general preferences of the disposition of personnel, but don't try to piss on me and tell me it's raining about Steve Smith's ability, competitive nature, or the way that he was axed from the team, because I am gonna call "Bullshit!" everytime. In my opinion, Smitty deserved more than that, and deserves more than that now. And, like I have alluded to in multiple threads that have come up this offseason, I think that it's shameful and not befitting of an intelligent or mature fan base.

But all you acknowledge is his ability to technically catch a football and run routes....

And while yes he can do that....it was his presence in the lockerroom and interaction with the team that got him cut from here. You have to be able to acknowledge a pain in the rear diva make it about me WR who is merely just a good WR.....can hinder a young team trying to build around others

He didn't fit. He would have done more harm than good here....based on where we are and trying to go. He fits in Baltimore. Nothing wrong with that

[Car123]

A boss in a small office maybe.

The boss of a multimillion dollar football team doesn't let personal feelings enter into his decisions unless he's a complete moron.

Gettleman made this decision because he believed it was the best thing for the team. I seriously doubt he personally likes everybody he's kept on the team, nor does he dislike everyone he's cut.

He's a talent evaluator and a football guy. That's what he does.