Cam Turner joins Panthers staff

[KillerKat]

yeah, has his own flaws.  Even looked conservative and stuffy with Lovie.  

 

Which is a thing people don't seem to get when they post "unrelated thing - OK now let's bag on Shula" posts/threads.   Ron's move on the O was in 2012.  That's when they started going ball control and Chud got limited on what he could do.  This offense is more or less what Ron wants.   Just as Lovie Smith somehow hired Mike Martz and then tried to make him conservative.   

 

Fire Shula, whatever, hire Proehl, Ramsdell, reanimate Don Coryell himself, let Hue Jackson berate whoever, but this team will want to do what it's doing.

Ron has almost no input on offense.

[JakeH]

I like the addition of more coaches to the staff, it lowers the student to teacher ratio. And that's a good thing. The Seahawks have been lauded for having a large staff.

[PantherFanOne]

Cam Turner has a nice resume. It's good to see a young assistant join the Panthers,one with a mindset that is hopefully bright, as well as youthful

[Diehardpanther02]

Ron has almost no input on offense.

That train of thought will get you kilt if you were at an nfls head coaching conference. Ron may not call the plays but he surely has input. He knows what he is lookin for out of his offense.

[magnus]

I'll further the case that this is no more nepotism than (and I never thought of this until now), that Ron and Ron working together is quite possibly what got Rivera the job with Norv in the first place. 

[magnus]

Ron has almost no input on offense.

Ron doesn't call plays, but yeah, he has input on offense.  He said, toward the end of '12, for instance, after the team's "self-scouting" that they were making some changes, the offense got less radical and more ball control, and it's been that way ever since.  

 

It's worth noting that it happened a few weeks after Kuechly started at MLB and the defense really kicked into gear.  

 

I mean, you don't have to be in love with it but this is what Rivera wants.   Good defense, ball control O that takes some shots.   

[magnus]

Everybody knows Norv. Few seem to remember Ron.

Ron was actually pretty good.

he was probably better at providing Lovie what Lovie wanted than the rest.  Didn't get the talent that, say, Tice got. 

 

But, I'll admit I floated him as a coordinator in '11 and I wasn't exactly dying for him to be here. 

[panthers55]

Hmm...

If Shula sucks next season, what if they promote Proehl to OC? Just a thought.

Not a good thought given he has never called a play in his life. Why do people feel the need to keep wanting guys who have little or no experience to be the OC. Don't you want someone with experience ???

[JakeH]

Not a good thought given he has never called a play in his life. Why do people feel the need to keep wanting guys who have little or no experience to be the OC. Don't you want someone with experience ???

 

Just because he hasn't done it yet doesn't mean he wouldn't be good at it. Shula has six years of being an NFL play caller, and he's still poo.

 

[panthers55]

Just because he hasn't done it yet doesn't mean he wouldn't be good at it. Shula has six years of being an NFL play caller, and he's still poo.

You answered your own question. If Shula who played quarterback and had experience as an OC still sucks in your opinion, why would Proehl do better with virtually no experience as anything but a receiver coach which is the only position he played in the NFL.

Sure he could be okay and I might grow wings tonight and fly. But why take the chance when they are other guys who would be more qualified and will be available as well. we did the same with Davidson and we see how that worked out.

[SCP]

Ricky played in the greatest show on turf. I'm fairly certain Shula would be confused from just watching it.

Shula would get the greatest show on turf confused with the Surf & Turf he orders at his dad's steakhouses.

[Byrdman4real]

Not a good thought given he has never called a play in his life. Why do people feel the need to keep wanting guys who have little or no experience to be the OC. Don't you want someone with experience ???

I think people want a fresh mind. Someone new that is hungry not only to learn and improve his self, but use the individual talent from each player in the game plain, which will transform into plays that make sense with the right personal.

[nickzz]

Hmm...

 

If Shula sucks next season, what if they promote Proehl to OC? Just a thought.

 

???

 

going to need you to elaborate on the bolded text

[rmoneyg35]

I believe we should at least give Shula a chance as OC with an actual LT and a better receiving corp. Our offense improved greatly when Norwell and Reammers replaced Amini and Chandler, now imagine Bell and Cotchery replaced.