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Why Gettleman is a GM... and you aren't.


Jeremy Igo

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By season's end - when injuries starting making Rivera's depth chart decisions for him - yes we were.

And finishing strong does a lot for a team.

 

 

I am still worried about the bolded...I'm pretty much fine with Gman, it's Rivera's dumb ass we have to worry about.

 

Bersin being the primary target in a playoff game is holding us back tremendously. Bersin is option #1 and Dickson is option #2? Come on man Cam deserves better than that.

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I don't care about what the "majority" wanted and neither should a gm of any team or any businessman for that matter.

Surely i wouldn't want to fit in with the majority..otherwise i'd be a cowboys fan...

 

and no thank you.

 

 

So that's a no....you're gonna lump everyone with questions in with the few who had irrational expectations. Have fun with that. 

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Uh huh :rolleyes:

Face it, dude. We're in a way better spot than we have been in our team history since Gettleman took over.

Whine and bitch to your heart's content if that's what makes you happy, but you're off base.

Because of

Cam

Luke

Olsen

CJ

TD

Quick what do all those guys have in common? Gettleman inherited a damn good base of football players. Up until last year you could include Hardy in there as well. Gettleman gets all the praise while Hurney's guys make all the plays. How many GMs are handed a franchise QB and a future Hall of Fame middle linebacker? But yet he spent an entire offseason and walked away with the bright idea that Bell was the best option at LT. Tragic

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I am still worried about the bolded...I'm pretty much fine with Gmam, it's Rivera's dumb ass we have to worry about.

I admit that thought's crossed my mind too.

I'm fairly confident we'll have a better, deeper roster than last year by the time the season rolls around. Having that better roster would (hopefully) minimize depth chart mistakes.

And of course, the sad flipside is that what injury giveth, injury can taketh away :(

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So that's a no....you're gonna lump everyone with questions in with the few who had irrational expectations. Have fun with that. 

 

My point was that a gm shouldn't listen to what fans want. Once again we got a cap to worry about.  I don't mind signing a mid tier wr or cb as long as we are not overpaying for him. And generally teams tend to do that the first few days of free agency.  Patience is a virtue.

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Save the "we won the division" debate for Bucs, Falcons, and Saints fans. We won the division only because league rules says somebody has to

 

If we don't make the playoffs last year....let's say the Bengals kicker makes the gimmie he misses and Atlanta gets in instead of us...there's a chance that Rivera is going into the season with the hottest seat of all NFL coaches. 

 

I'm not complaining but the Panthers were very, very lucky last year. They need to improve and they haven't. Meanwhile the Seahags get Jimmy Graham. 

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Because of

Cam

Luke

Olsen

CJ

TD

Quick what do all those guys have in common? Gettleman inherited a damn good base of football players. Up until last year you could include Hardy in there as well. Gettleman gets all the praise while Hurney's guys make all the plays. How many GMs are handed a franchise QB and a future Hall of Fame middle linebacker? But yet he spent an entire offseason and walked away with the bright idea that Bell was the best option at LT. Tragic

You really wanna appeal to defending Hurney :lol:

(see, this is where you clearly show you've lost the argument)

When was the first time that core of players helped the Panthers make the playoffs?

Or, to put it another way, what GM built the roster on which they did?

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If we don't make the playoffs last year....let's say the Bengals kicker makes the gimmie he misses and Atlanta gets in instead of us...there's a chance that Rivera is going into the season with the hottest seat of all NFL coaches.

I'm not complaining but the Panthers were very, very lucky last year. They need to improve and they haven't. Meanwhile the Seahags get Jimmy Graham.

Making the playoffs last year did more harm than good

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Because of

Cam

Luke

Olsen

CJ

TD

Quick what do all those guys have in common? Gettleman inherited a damn good base of football players. Up until last year you could include Hardy in there as well. Gettleman gets all the praise while Hurney's guys make all the plays. How many GMs are handed a franchise QB and a future Hall of Fame middle linebacker? But yet he spent an entire offseason and walked away with the bright idea that Bell was the best option at LT. Tragic

 

Dave could have reached for for a LT in the draft and we wouldn't have kelvin. Sure could have went after a free agent LT but who was there last year? Most likely we would have had to overspend for them and considering our Cap was less than it was this year i highly doubt we could aford them.  A mid tier LT would have been fine. But chances are some other team overspent for them

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I admit that thought's crossed my mind too.

I'm fairly confident we'll have a better, deeper roster than last year by the time the season rolls around. Having that better roster would (hopefully) minimize depth chart mistakes.

And of course, the sad flipside is that what injury giveth, injury can taketh away :(

 

If we hit on 5 picks again we'll be well on our way to SF/Seattle type depth. (SF from a few years ago...)

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You really wanna appeal to defending Hurney :lol:

(see, this is where you clearly show you've lost the argument)

When was the first time that core of players helped the Panthers make the playoffs?

Or, to put it another way, what GM built the roster on which they did?

We were competitive when Hurney got fired. The first two years with Cam we were always in games and should have won many of them. We went 12-4 because of Riverboat, and then last year we were getting blown out and went on a run BECAUSE OUR SCHEDULE GOT EASIER. Not because the magical rookies, we played the fuging Browns and Falcolns down the stretch.
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My point was that a gm shouldn't listen to what fans want. Once again we got a cap to worry about.  I don't mind signing a mid tier wr or cb as long as we are not overpaying for him. And generally teams tend to do that the first few days of free agency.  Patience is a virtue.

 

There have been numerous quality signings at value rates already. Obviously the huge deals are going to be pointed out more, but the values are there. 

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Dave could have reached for for a LT in the draft and we wouldn't have kelvin. Sure could have went after a free agent LT but who was there last year? Most likely we would have had to overspend for them and considering our Cap was less than it was this year i highly doubt we could aford them. A mid tier LT would have been fine. But chances are some other team overspent for them

There is no way you're telling me a GM making millions of dollars couldn't find an upgrade over Bell last year. He was horrible at RT and they put him on the left. Come on man

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We were competitive when Hurney got fired. The first two years with Cam we were always in games and should have won many of them. We went 12-4 because of Riverboat, and then last year we were getting blown out and went on a run BECAUSE OUR SCHEDULE GOT EASIER. Not because the magical rookies, we played the fuging Browns and Falcolns down the stretch.

Right. Everything worked in our favor despite the 'joke' GM. He's just lucky.

Good Lord :rolleyes:

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