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We're getting smoked. Game thread.


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Mo started off so well here but he's old and the minutes have caught up to him.

 

Oh, and blow it up.  The only players worth keeping IMO are MKG, Vonleh, and Biz......

 

But guess what, next year's roster will look much like this years with the few untradeable contracts we've got. 

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Mo started off so well here but he's old and the minutes have caught up to him.

Oh, and blow it up. The only players worth keeping IMO are MKG, Vonleh, and Biz......

But guess what, next year's roster will look much like this years with the few untradeable contracts we've got.

Enough of the "untradeable" shtick. Every contract in the league is tradeable it's just a matter of attaching an incentive and/or taking back just as much or more money from another team to make it happen. The problem is Cho isn't aggressive enough to use his own picks in a trade to dump players that aren't working. So instead of making a play for dragic, we get mo Williams. Instead of getting rid of lance for spare parts, he gets DNP's.

In order to restart this rebuild, Cho is going to have to be more aggressive in tearing it down or else you're right, we're in the same sad boat next season just praying Curry gets homesick in a few years.

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Enough of the "untradeable" shtick. Every contract in the league is tradeable it's just a matter of attaching an incentive and/or taking back just as much or more money from another team to make it happen. The problem is Cho isn't aggressive enough to use his own picks in a trade to dump players that aren't working. So instead of making a play for dragic, we get mo Williams. Instead of getting rid of lance for spare parts, he gets DNP's.

In order to restart this rebuild, Cho is going to have to be more aggressive in tearing it down or else you're right, we're in the same sad boat next season just praying Curry gets homesick in a few years.

Getting rid of Lance isn't worth giving up a 1st round pick at any point when the ceiling without him was a first round exit in the playoffs.

Getting rid of a first round pick to get rid of overpaid players isn't worth it when you're rebuilding "which the Hornets are doing, even if they or the fans don't see it yet" isnt the way to go unless you're getting something worthwhile back.

So yes, expect to suck again next season because Lance, Jefferson and Kemba are untradable without giving up something major or taking garbage back.

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Well the franchise has managed to kill all goodwill built up by last seasons team and the rebrand. They are now back to being about as interesting to watch as they were under Mike Dunlap. The rebuild was botched when we started overpaying for mid level players like Stephenson and Jefferson. That's a path to a perpetual 6-7-8 seed at best and a first round playoff loss. Throw in some untimely injuries, extremely questionable coaching and waning motivation and you have the trainwreck that is this years Charlotte Hornets.

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Getting rid of Lance isn't worth giving up a 1st round pick at any point when the ceiling without him was a first round exit in the playoffs.

Getting rid of a first round pick to get rid of overpaid players isn't worth it when you're rebuilding "which the Hornets are doing, even if they or the fans don't see it yet" isnt the way to go unless you're getting something worthwhile back.

So yes, expect to suck again next season because Lance, Jefferson and Kemba are untradable without giving up something major or taking garbage back.

This post is dead on. Hornets shouldn't give up assets to move the bad contracts. After next season, they'll have big al, marvin, and Lance off the books. Hendo may opt out this offseason too (though his contract no longer looks as bad). That will leave only Kemba's bad deal on the books.

So that frees up cap space but the hornets aren't an attractive FA destination. At that point, they need to go and trade for some vets with the newfound cap space. Really, the team should be looking for upgrades at each position except SF and PF.

You've got to build around MKG and zeller/Vonleh. Neither stretches the court so you have to find a backcourt that can actually shoot. That means upgrading both Hendo and Kemba. Hendo could come off the bench. Find a big that can give you 12 ppg and actually play some defense and then you've got a real team.

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Well the franchise has managed to kill all goodwill built up by last seasons team and the rebrand. They are now back to being about as interesting to watch as they were under Mike Dunlap. The rebuild was botched when we started overpaying for mid level players like Stephenson and Jefferson. That's a path to a perpetual 6-7-8 seed at best and a first round playoff loss. Throw in some untimely injuries, extremely questionable coaching and waning motivation and you have the trainwreck that is this years Charlotte Hornets.

The team was honestly more entertaining to watch under Dunlap than we have been lately. At least he had us doing more than taking pull up long 2s 75% of the time.
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Well the franchise has managed to kill all goodwill built up by last seasons team and the rebrand. They are now back to being about as interesting to watch as they were under Mike Dunlap. The rebuild was botched when we started overpaying for mid level players like Stephenson and Jefferson. That's a path to a perpetual 6-7-8 seed at best and a first round playoff loss. Throw in some untimely injuries, extremely questionable coaching and waning motivation and you have the trainwreck that is this years Charlotte Hornets.

 

What's hilarious is they hired Cho who specifically laid out the plan to tank all because we wanted to avoid this exact scenario after the post-Orlando playoff sweep.

 

People want to criticize the 76ers for building teams not meant to win, but that's a franchise that from the top-down is committed to a plan and they are sticking to it come hell or high water, and I respect the heck out of them for doing it. Not to mention with all the picks they've accumulated, they could be really interesting going forward. (By the way, their .228 winning percentage so far this year more than doubles Charlotte's 2011-12 team at .106)

 

I'd rather have a plan and stick to it than whatever just happened, because we wound up right back in no man's land with a capped out roster with a very limited ceiling. What's sad is you could actually see the plan coming together, accumulating lottery talent and growing together over a few years, but they signed Al Jefferson, a move that, when it's all said and done, will prove to be one of the biggest mistakes this team ever made. The rest, as they say, is history. 

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