nfl.com Draft winners and losers

[tiger7_88]

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000490553/article/winners-from-the-2015-nfl-draft

 

 

 

After three days, 256 picks, and roughly 35 locations where the pickers were announced, the 2015NFL Draft was in the books. They say you need three years to properly evaluate a draft, so let's try to improperly evaluate it below.

 

Here were some of the big winners from the week:

 

 

   

Carolina Panthers

 

  Let's be honest: Did general manager Dave Gettleman take Shaq Thompsonwithout having any idea on how to use him? Whether or not he ends up being a linebacker or a safety, he was one of the premium athletes in this years draft. He'll be fine. They also added one of my favorite receivers coming out this year, Devin Funchess, and now Cam Newton has three mammoth targets to work with in Funchess,Kelvin Benjamin and tight end Greg Olsen. This will not only help them extend running plays, but will also give Newton more receivers who suit his personal playing style. -- Conor Orr

 

 

 

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000490558/article/losers-from-the-2015-nfl-draft

 

 

 

Tampa Bay Buccaneers

 

In a year or two, I could look tremendously foolish. Jameis Winstonmay be an incredible quarterback and he may very well be the next Ben Roethlisberger. But if I'm the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, how am I overlooking the player that has turned the ball over less, completed more of his passes and is more athletic? Sometimes we over think things atop the draft and sometimes we don't. Until we see them in an NFL uniform -- and Winston has a far better supporting cast to start -- we'll never know. That's the thing about any of these players, but to also trade up into the second round to grab an offensive lineman that played college football at Division III Hobart, it just seems a little puzzling. In a draft that was not lauded for its offensive line talent, Tampa Bay is starting a rookie quarterback with turnover issues in front of two second-round offensive linemen that are also rookies. Like I've said before, I could be wrong about this pick. There's a good chance I'm wrong about this pick. But pressed for a gut instinct, I would have gone in another direction. -- Conor Orr

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[chknwing]

cbs sports gave carolina a D for the Shaq pick

[SOJA]

hey someone not jumping on the Carolina sucks ass bandwagon- what a breath of fresh air 

[caatfan]

"Did general manager Dave Gettleman take Shaq Thompsonwithout having any idea on how to use him?" 

 

He's not giving much credit with that question. As Gman said after the Williams selection, these picks aren't made in a vacuum. They think Shaq can be a big plus. 

 

"He'll be fine." Hopefully better than fine.

 

 

[juliosantos]

Bleacher report had us as the biggest loser 2 years in a row lol I guess they like the taste of crow

[Mr. Scot]

"Did general manager Dave Gettleman take Shaq Thompson without having any idea on how to use him?"

 

- Connor Orr

 

My word, that's a ridiculous question.

 

[Fidel Cashflow]

not bad

[tiger7_88]

My word, that's a ridiculous question.

 

 

 

It was a rhetorical question because he makes it clear the answer is obvious.

[tiger7_88]

"Did general manager Dave Gettleman take Shaq Thompsonwithout having any idea on how to use him?" 

 

He's not giving much credit with that question. As Gman said after the Williams selection, these picks aren't made in a vacuum. They think Shaq can be a big plus. 

 

"He'll be fine." Hopefully better than fine.

 

 

Again, it was clearly a rhetorical question.

 

What he's saying there is "Do you REALLY think general manager Dave Gettleman took Thompson without having any idea on how to use him?  And, if so, how stupid are you?"

 

If he really thought DG drafted the kid with no idea how to use him, I don't think he'd grade our draft as a "Winner".  

[!stUp]

it pains me to say it, but the Jags faired pretty well.

 

[WUnderhill]

Yeah, he was saying that in response to those panning the pick based on the premise that we would take a player we didn't know how to use. He's arguing that Gettleman WOULDN'T use a first round pick on a player he didn't have specific plans on how to use.

[Mr. Scot]

It was a rhetorical question because he makes it clear the answer is obvious.

 

See, I think he didn't.

 

His response was that while Thompson is a great athlete, he doesn't know if he'll be a safety or a linebacker.

 

I'll grant you could be right about his intent, but I'd consider it poorly worded if that's what he wanted to say.

 

[caatfan]

Again, it was clearly a rhetorical question.

 

What he's saying there is "Do you REALLY think general manager Dave Gettleman took Thompson without having any idea on how to use him?  And, if so, how stupid are you?"

 

If he really thought DG drafted the kid with no idea how to use him, I don't think he'd grade our draft as a "Winner".  

But to me, this follow up statement says he doesn't know what Gman is thinking -  "Whether or not he ends up being a linebacker or a safety ....".   I think it's clear the plan is to play him at LB. As to his grade, I think he likes the versatility of the guy (and likely some other picks) even though he doesn't know the plan for Shaq.

 

 

I'd consider it poorly worded if that's what he wanted to say.

 

Same here.

 

[Mr. Scot]

they gave our Kuechly pick an F when it happened.

 

Because it wasn't a need.

 

I forget who pointed it out to me but now it's pretty clear that's how all these guys operate.  Amazed I didn't see it before.

 

(maybe I just didn't look into it tat closely; don't know)