"No debate" these QBs are better than Cam Newton

[Brooklyn Bully]

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[CelibatePimp]

For me the writer makes one solid point, there are always excuses surrounding QBs who cannot produce at a high level, whether OC, "weapons", oline etc. At a certain point, a good QB should be able to overcome all that or else we would be talking about oline again next year.

This is really Cam's season to take a big step forward, if he can't then it is what it is.

[Jangler]

I like how he sprinkles in Luck and Wilson with guys that have 8-12 years experience. It just shows they knows what's coming...

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

and they are afraid.

 

 

 

 

Be afraid.

 

 

Be very afraid.

[KillerKat]

There's only 2 guys on a real "No debate" list. That's Rodgers and Brady. People that make these lists don't even know the definition of the list that they're trying to make. Any other QB in the league you can debate about Cam being equal to or greater than. Give Cam an actual o-line and receivers, he will dominate the league with his skill set, size, cannon arm, and athleticism. 

[Cyberjag]

Sorry I searched Canadia Today magazine for a more compelling thread topic but every article was written by some yahoo comparing and contrasting the benefits of banging a moose vagina instead of a human vagina.

​You didn't happen to save that link, did you?

[Icege]

List instantly became questionable the moment that Kaepernick was allowed on it

[nctarheel0619]

brady...yes

ben.....because of experience, yes. ben is very underrated, tho.

flacco...in post season he's really good.

luck....i dunno. luck = higher floor newton = higher ceiling. i have always thought that luck was someone that could go into any system and play at a high level. cam could play in any system, but he should be in one that is built around his skillset to get the most out of him (which is more than you could ever get with luck, imo).

peyton of even 3 years ago....yes. peyton now? push and leaning towards nah. he's a lot smarter than cam (or pretty much any QB that has played the game), but he has diminished capabilities that negates the advantages his intellect might bring about.

rivers...yeah, he's just good. another underrated QB like ben. wouldn't trade cam for him or anyone, tho.

rodgers...yes

romo....nah. very overrated and crumbles under pressure.

brees...yes, but his size and devolving situation in new orleans along with increasing age is going to cause a decline in his production. i don't think he has many years left of relevancy.

ryan...no way

russell...nope. dude is the luckiest QB in the league. that won't last.

eli....nope

kap....bwhahahahahahahahahahaa NAH!

stafford...leaning towards no. i like him, but he's as good as he's ever going to get. cam's still quite a ways away from peaking.

palmer....nope. guy hasn't been the same since that fat steeler rolled on him and bent his knee backward.

cutler....if he wasn't so emo, maybe, but i don't think he was ever as good as people made him out to be.

 

​This, I put Russell over Cam right now though.  Which still makes Cam Top 10.  As long as Russell keeps winning you will be hard pressed to find any true fan that will put Cam above him.  Luck also is above Cam too, no contest on that one.  

[nctarheel0619]

Meh, it's more the topic than the writer. Thought it would be interesting to see who the Huddle thinks ranks higher than Cam.

​I would put Cam Top 10.  But that's as far as it goes.  No order, but above him is A-Rod, Manning Broncos, Luck, Russell, Ben, Brady, Flacco, Brees. 

[CelibatePimp]

Cam's stats have been eerily identical to Kaepernick over the last two years (with Kaep's looking a tad better) so I don't know where people get the idea Cam is so much better than Kaep.

[teeray]

Does he mean when they are all the same age?

 

Manning was being questioned whether he was the answet because he couldn't win consistently and had zero playoff wins

Brees was drafted over

Brady was in a QB controversy with Drew Bledsoe 

So.... let's see where he is after he has some experience cocksmar

[pantherphan96]

Scott Kacsmar (I believe his last name is pronounced "Cock-smar") believes this list of QBs, without debate, are better than Cam Newton

Scott Kacsmar @FO_ScottKacsmar · 5h5 hours ago

No debate: Brady, Ben, Flacco, Luck, PM, Rivers, Romo, ARod, Brees, Ryan, Wilson. Also: Eli, Kap, Stafford, Palmer, Cutler @panthersman1982

So, what say you?  I would agree with all but Wilson, Kap, Cutler, and Palmer.  

​No debate: Brady, Roethlisberger, ARod, Romo, PM, Brees (though after last season i'm not too sure).

maybe better, maybe worse: flacco, luck, rivers, ryan, wilson.

definitely worse than cam: eli, kap, stafford, palmer.

NOTE: CUTLER WAS BENCHED IN FAVOR OF JIMMY F&%$ING CLAUSEN!!!!!

[teeray]

I am just tired of lazy assholes that seem to have nothing but contempt for Cam.

 

I look forward to winning the NFCS again and awaiting the next round of caveats and "yeah buts".

[nctarheel0619]

Cam's stats have been eerily identical to Kaepernick over the last two years (with Kaep's looking a tad better) so I don't know where people get the idea Cam is so much better than Kaep.

​You can compare Cam's numbers but the problem with that is Kap has had a vast amount of weapons and arguably the best O-Line in the business.  While Cam has had a broken down running game, Byron Bell, Nate Chandler, and Amini, and lastly Kelvin Benjamin and Greg Olsen.  That's why many say Kap isn't as good.  Hell, even 49er fans hate Sack or Pick.  

[CelibatePimp]

​You can compare Cam's numbers but the problem with that is Kap has had a vast amount of weapons and arguably the best O-Line in the business.  While Cam has had a broken down running game, Byron Bell, Nate Chandler, and Amini, and lastly Kelvin Benjamin and Greg Olsen.  That's why many say Kap isn't as good.  Hell, even 49er fans hate Sack or Pick.  

​Again we have excuses. This was not the case in 2013 when Cam had his full cast of "weapons". Can you tell me what weapon Kaep had that Cam did not have? TE is a push. WR? Cam had Ginn, Smith and LaFell, Kaep had Boldin and that's about it. Kaep's passer rating was also in the 90s, something Cam has never achieved in his career.

If Cam does not want to be compared to these other QBs, he'll have to shut people up by leading the NFL in a significant passing stat, like Luck did last year to shut most of the haters (including me) up.