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Mr. Scot

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Mr. Scot

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Previous thread got moved, but I've long thought it was useful to have a general "one off" NFL News thread in the main forum just for quick takes and things that could be Panthers related down the road, so I'll try again here.

Starting with...

Jags tight end Julius Thomas is reported to have fractured a finger against the Steelers.  Although the Florida Times-Union calls it a "small fracture", any fracture on a receiver's hand raises eyebrows. Whether it'll affect his status for the week one matchup against us?  Unknown.  My gut says 'no'.

Giants rookie safety Landon Collins left their preseason game with a knee injury but it's not thought to be serious.  Collins was a player a lot of guys hoped the Panthers would draft this past May but it wasn't to be.

Another guy a lot of people wanted - but generally acknowledged we had no chance of getting - got some worse news,  Bears receiver Kevin White will reportedly start the season on PUP due to a stress fracture in his shin.  Bears GM Ryan pace worries he could miss the whole season (hate that for the kid).

And Marcus Mariota's interception free preseason ended with the Titans first offensive series against someone other than their own defense.  On the second series, he fumbled after being hit.  Rough start for the kid, but still a lot of preseason left to go.

Post other non-Panther or somewhat indirectly Panther-related items here.

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Ladies and gentlemen, The Career that Wouldn't Die.

Everett Brown has a job again, this time with the Cleveland Browns (appropriately enough).

Not his fault Hurney made a poor trade.  Hope it works out for him, though certainly looks unlikely at this point.

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      By SmokinwithWilly · Posted

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