interesting thing about Kalil's contract

[Captain Morgan]

there's been a couple of mentions here about cutting Ryan next year to save 4.3 mill on the cap.  However, we have him on contract for about 4 mill for 2 more seasons after that.  He's only 30, and centers can be very effective at the age of 34.

 

 

                                                                                                                                       Dead Money     Cap Savings

                                                                                                                                                                  (if cut)

2015	$5,366,000	$6,179,000	$0	$250,000	$0	$11,795,000		$12,116,000	($321,000)
2016	$7,500,000	$2,579,000	$0	$250,000	$0	$10,329,000		$5,937,000	$4,392,000
2017	$1,000,000	$2,579,000	$0	$0	$0	$3,579,000		$3,358,000	$221,000
2018	$1,000,000	$779,000	$0	$0	$0	$1,779,000		$779,000	$1,000,000

 

Even with extending Cam, Luke, and Greg, we can afford to keep Ryan for 3 more years.    This contract was done one month after Dave Gettleman was hired in January of 2013.  It was one of his first moves.  It also hopefully keeps our center, while allowing us a lot of cap space for Star and KK.

 

"On February 20, 2013 the Panthers restructured Kalil’s contract by dropping his 2014 base salary to $855,000 and instead paying him a prorated bonus of $3,895,000. The team added a voidable contract year in 2018 for salary cap relief."

http://overthecap.com/player/ryan-kalil/1190/

 

Getty magic.

 

 

[RelaxImaPro]

Yeah, I've been saying this (though not as detailed) for a while in response to all the people talking about cutting Kalil after this season for cap purposes.  Lol it makes absolutely no sense.  After next year we have him for peanuts and he'll still only be 31.  Centers regularly play effectively all the way into their mid-30s.

[Captain Morgan]

Yeah, I've been saying this (though not as detailed) for a while in response to all the people talking about cutting Kalil after this season for cap purposes.  Lol it makes absolutely no sense.  After next year we have him for peanuts and he'll still only be 31.  Centers regularly play effectively all the way into their mid-30s.

 

Jeff Saturday retired at 35, and was still effective.

[R0CKnR0LLA]

yeah his cap hit is so low in 17 and 18 that it's worth paying him a premium in 16. the most likely scenario is we restructure, changing his base salary in 16 into a bonus, spreading the cap hit out and making his cap hit for 16, 17 and 18 all very reasonable

[chknwing]

i'm not sure ryan wont get an extension

[O-Ther]

I'd expect extensions for Kalil and CJ this off-season that cuts a few million off next year's cap hit. Savings used to help extend Norman. Don't see us breaking up the band when that's a way we can keep it together

IIRC 2017 and 2018 for Kalil are just voidable years added for earlier cap relief like we did with Jordan Gross, that's why I say contract extension when it appears he's already under contract

[R0CKnR0LLA]

rough numbers but restructure, subtract 4 million from 2016 and add 2 million to both 17 and 18, giving you

2016: 6.3M cap hit

2017: 5.5M cap hit

2018: 3.7M cap hit

[OneBadCat]

Cutting Kalil would be the dumbest fugging thing we could do.

[CarolinaXblue]

I'd expect extensions for Kalil and CJ this off-season that cuts a few million off next year's cap hit. Savings used to help extend Norman. Don't see us breaking up the band when that's a way we can keep it together

IIRC 2017 and 2018 for Kalil are just voidable years added for earlier cap relief like we did with Jordan Gross, that's why I say contract extension when it appears he's already under contract

I've heard CJ won't be back next year. We will see

[CRA]

I think more and more we start seeing smarter lineman walk away from the game sooner than they did years ago....especially ones that have been well paid.  No point in playing past your prime at some of these spots if you hit big paydays IMO

Next year could easily be Kalil's last season.  Kinda sets up and puts him right where Gross was.

 

 

[O-Ther]

I've heard CJ won't be back next year. We will see

He's still under 30 years old, his cap hit drops by $5 million next year, and Gettleman loves him some pass-rushers. IIRC, CJ may have only had 8.5 sacks last year, but he led the league in QB hurries. I'm expecting him to be here next year.

[CRA]

yeah, the more I think about it...I think the odds of Kalil going the Gross path are decent.

[Captain Morgan]

I think more and more we start seeing smarter lineman walk away from the game sooner than they did years ago....especially ones that have been well paid.  No point in playing past your prime at some of these spots if you hit big paydays IMO

Next year could easily be Kalil's last season.  Kinda sets up and puts him right where Gross was.

 

 

 

yep, but at least we won't get killed by dead money.  Notable that Kalil and Gross are good friends.

[Jangler]

Cutting Kalil would be the dumbest fugging thing we could do.

no, we need another fycking position to worry about. ~ said nobody ever.