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Jeremy Lamb extended by the Hornets 3 years/21 mill


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12 minutes ago, JJman Returns said:

He's very good and is still young but 21 million seems steep. Still he is one of very few players we've come across that actually have high offensive potential. 

You're forgetting to account for the new cap.

To OP: Basically all of what JJ said and like MKG you're trying to buy low so you don't have a Josh Norman situation.

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8 hours ago, JJman Returns said:

I get why people will poo on this move but down the road I think Jeremy Lamb will be one of the most liked Hornets we have. He can shoot, score, plays physical, and played solid defense against the Hawks Sunday. Soon all of PJs minutes will be going to him and his stats are going to go way up.

That may be, but it looks like a really stupid move right now and I'd be saying the same thing if they gave PJ this deal lol.  Neither have shown nearly enough to justify 7 mil per, increasing cap or not...  It would still be a horrible deal if they were giving it to PJ, but at least in that scenario I could try to lie to myself and say, "well, they see him everyday in practice, so they're seeing a lot of positives that we aren't," and we drafted him.  Lamb on the other hand, just got here in the offseason, has barely played the first few games, isn't even starting (they're giving PJ that role and essentially his minutes) and he has been very hit or miss. 

I'm just saying, we seem so directionless...  If they believe that strongly in Lamb, then why the fug are they playing PJ as the starter and giving him more minutes?  Lol.   I don't feel like looking, but I think Lamb was even a DNP in the season opener, and now he gets a 3 yr extension at 7M per?  I just don't understand...  It makes no sense at all where we currently stand. 

Remember when everyone was bitching and/or laughing at our FO giving Marvin 7M per?  This move is even more ridiculous than that, because Marvin at least had a history or production and was considered a veteran leader-type guy...   Lamb has done nothing to this point.   I loved the move to get him because I was a big fan of his game since college.  Yes, he has tons of potential, but OKC gave him the opportunity to start and be a major contributor and he failed so they gave up on him...  I figured it was low-risk, high-reward, because he is cheap, on his rookie deal, and we basically get a whole season to evaluate him and then make a decision.  We barely even know him at this point and give him 7 million a year, yet he's done NOTHING as a pro to justify it. 

I just don't know what our FO is doing and as a fan, it makes me feel both helpless and hopeless. 

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41 minutes ago, SOJA said:

this is solely based off potential....maybe Kemba was a big advocate for extending him ....maybe we're expecting him to have a monster season 

And that's part of the problem. I see both sides here. On the one hand you want to try to get him as cheap as possible on the chance he breaks out, but on the other hand you're handing out extensions to a mediocre roster that needs some major reconstruction long term.

I'm with Diddy on this one. I'm just not sure where the front office is going and I'm tired of watching the same team go through the same mediocre motions on the road to the 9th pick. Again.

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I se this as the team gambling on his potential, buying low and hope he exceeds his contract.  Considering MKG's injury, Batum not guaranteed to re-sign, and PJ's inconsistent play ... it seems like a gamble worth taking for a small market team.  Toss in the increased cap and floor ...it probably justified this move in their eyes anyway. 

Considering his youth and ability to shoot the three I don't mind the deal.  Toss in the factors above and I can further see why the team may have done it. 

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10 hours ago, Proudiddy said:

That may be, but it looks like a really stupid move right now and I'd be saying the same thing if they gave PJ this deal lol.  Neither have shown nearly enough to justify 7 mil per, increasing cap or not...  It would still be a horrible deal if they were giving it to PJ, but at least in that scenario I could try to lie to myself and say, "well, they see him everyday in practice, so they're seeing a lot of positives that we aren't," and we drafted him.  Lamb on the other hand, just got here in the offseason, has barely played the first few games, isn't even starting (they're giving PJ that role and essentially his minutes) and he has been very hit or miss. 

I'm just saying, we seem so directionless...  If they believe that strongly in Lamb, then why the fug are they playing PJ as the starter and giving him more minutes?  Lol.   I don't feel like looking, but I think Lamb was even a DNP in the season opener, and now he gets a 3 yr extension at 7M per?  I just don't understand...  It makes no sense at all where we currently stand. 

Remember when everyone was bitching and/or laughing at our FO giving Marvin 7M per?  This move is even more ridiculous than that, because Marvin at least had a history or production and was considered a veteran leader-type guy...   Lamb has done nothing to this point.   I loved the move to get him because I was a big fan of his game since college.  Yes, he has tons of potential, but OKC gave him the opportunity to start and be a major contributor and he failed so they gave up on him...  I figured it was low-risk, high-reward, because he is cheap, on his rookie deal, and we basically get a whole season to evaluate him and then make a decision.  We barely even know him at this point and give him 7 million a year, yet he's done NOTHING as a pro to justify it. 

I just don't know what our FO is doing and as a fan, it makes me feel both helpless and hopeless. 

He didn't play in the first game because he was hurt.  He's still on the second unit because we have no one on the second unit that's a serious threat to score right now.  Just because PJ is starting doesn't mean he's the better player.  Lamb is gonna be getting way more minutes than PJ here soon.  I was a huge PJ fan and still try to be, but he's yet to show anything.  Lamb's first two games as a Hornet were both better than any game PJ has played for us yet.

The team is taking a slight gamble here, but I still think this deal is great news.  Have to remember this is a market where Harrison fuging Barnes turned DOWN 60/4.  It's insane.  When the new cap reaches it's full price this deal will still be less than 1/15 of the total cap.  Not bad at all for a guy who we could be grooming to be our sixth man (and he could become one of the better ones in the league).  Again, this is a risk but it seems like we'd rather take this risk now then watch him have a breakout season and have to let either one of him or Batum go.  Right now we have a solid core of wings for the future in Batum/MKG/Lamb.  That's definitely a playoff caliber rotation in the years to come (assuming we get Batum resigned which we should).  

I'm pretty excited about this, I feel like this will end up being looked at as one of Cho's better moves.

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i don't get the obsession with "the market" for NBA players. why does it seem like every NBA player wants to play for a "big market team"? i could understand something like old legendary franchises like the lakers, but aside from that who cares where you play? is it the fact a big market team could pay more by reaching past the soft cap?

you really don't see this as much in the NFL and it just seems odd to me that NBA players are a bunch of ego maniacs in this regard.

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