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Early Line Versus NO

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4 minutes ago, OriginalPantherDan said:

I sure hope you're right, but as a man who has seen plenty of teams lose to inferior opponents, which NO surely is, I'll be happier when this game ends with another W rather than banking on it ahead of time.

We've got a discipline to us that most other teams don't have though.  Rivera has finally got his culture installed.  We have won 15 in a row for a reason.  Just like the Patriots almost never lose to vastly inferior opponents (they haven't lost to a team that finished under .500 since September 2012), we have a consistency that lets us put bad teams away, hell even mediocre teams now, week after week.  

 

And that doesn't even take into account that NO has basically quit, and we are a matchup nightmare for them.

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11 minutes ago, Hammerin'Cameron34 said:

How much did you get back after putting a G down for Dallas

1100.  i bet the money line at +110 because i wasnt sure where to put the over/under with romo being back.  couldve went either way.  which.. iirc i think was 47.5

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I kind of don't like the fact we're actually favorites, We're a better team as a dog, but then again, this team is gonna have to learn to play from this position because it's not going away any time soon given our schedule down the stretch.  Lastly, don't underestimate them, last year, we went into New Orleans as big underdogs and we looked like we had given up on the season, we ended up on the good side of a 41-10 beat down.  If we take this game seriously, it should be another win in the bank for the good guys.

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17 minutes ago, UKPanther94 said:

Remember the talk last year about whether losing out would be better for the long term franchise compared to trying to make the play offs? I think we did the right thing in the end

Man, I remember hearing that, but people don't realize how important building a winning culture is.  Panthers are going to be the NFC south champs 3 times in a row, and we are now becoming a perrinial playoff franchise.  Even better, Brees is aging and the saints as a team are awful, they are DONE for a while, and the Falcons have Giant holes that will need multiple seasons to fix and a QB that stares down a receivers.  The only team I worry about long term is Tampa because Winston has the talent to be a good QB at this level, his issue is purely off the field.  We might be in the middle of an 8-10 type year run.

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On November 30, 2015 at 12:58:13, Camvp said:

We've got a discipline to us that most other teams don't have though.  Rivera has finally got his culture installed.  We have won 15 in a row for a reason.  Just like the Patriots almost never lose to vastly inferior opponents (they haven't lost to a team that finished under .500 since September 2012), we have a consistency that lets us put bad teams away, hell even mediocre teams now, week after week.  

 

And that doesn't even take into account that NO has basically quit, and we are a matchup nightmare for them.

I agree completely, but I still don't want to think we are invincible. But as for NO winning, it's highly unlikely IMO. 

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On 11/30/2015, 10:24:33, Leeroy Jenkins PhD said:

Not touching this game.  Division games are always screwy in the NFCS.  Every team we play is going to be looking to spoil our undefeated season.  We are now every loser teams super bowl. 

i usually would agree, but man, the Saints look BAD. like 0-16 Lions bad. that defense is made up of guys who either legitimately cannot play at a NFL-level or just look like they want to be anywhere but playing football in New Orleans. talk about a dysfunctional team.

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On 11/30/2015, 1:41:11, ThPantherFan said:

I wish I knew how that worked.  I can play a slot machine.

its not hard.  on the moneylines its just who wins who loses.   with money line if a team is +110, that means you bet 100 to win 110.  it can also go the other way.  if a team is -130 that means you have to bet  130 to win 100.    

 

you can have a line that looks like 

Panthers - 350

Saints + 425

which means  if you bet on the panthers a $500 bet would win you $142, if you bet on the saints a $500 bet would win you $2125.  (assuming the respective teams win of course)

the thing with vegas is that you have to remember, most of the times the odds DO align with the team that most likely going to win, but the lines are set on how much money is bet on each team.  if panthers are heavily bet then they would change that -350 to -500.  if the saints are to heavily bet they would change the +425 to +350.  which is why we were dogs going into dallas. it had nothing to do with who was going to win and lose, and everything to do with the number of people betting on dallas.   

 

money line right now for this week is 

Panthers - 320

Saints + 260.  

 

And there is a way to garuntee a wash or a profit, but i wont get into that ;)

 

 

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^^^ Nice explanation....But when I'm explaining to my friends how the moneyline works, it's easier to understand based on $100 bet...

If the moneyline is:

Panthers -320

Saints +260

You would have to bet $320 to win $100 for Panthers.  If you bet $100 on the Saints, the payout would be $260. 

Basically the same thing, it's just easier for people to understand based on a $100 bet rather than $500.

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50 minutes ago, Day_One said:

its not hard.  on the moneylines its just who wins who loses.   with money line if a team is +110, that means you bet 100 to win 110.  it can also go the other way.  if a team is -130 that means you have to bet  130 to win 100.    

 

you can have a line that looks like 

Panthers - 350

Saints + 425

which means  if you bet on the panthers a $500 bet would win you $142, if you bet on the saints a $500 bet would win you $2125.  (assuming the respective teams win of course)

the thing with vegas is that you have to remember, most of the times the odds DO align with the team that most likely going to win, but the lines are set on how much money is bet on each team.  if panthers are heavily bet then they would change that -350 to -500.  if the saints are to heavily bet they would change the +425 to +350.  which is why we were dogs going into dallas. it had nothing to do with who was going to win and lose, and everything to do with the number of people betting on dallas.   

 

money line right now for this week is 

Panthers - 320

Saints + 260.  

 

And there is a way to garuntee a wash or a profit, but i wont get into that ;)

 

 

I was trying to get that point out to one of the "no respect" guys yesterday, but it flew right over his head.

Vegas doesn't care who wins or loses, as long as the money is close.

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