Pass rush without Allen

[CRA]

1 minute ago, TN05 said:

Allen had 7 pressures against Seattle and is fantastic against the run. Don't write him off.

You have to rush Sea different than pocket passers.  He fit bc the DEs are largely playing contain with a QB looking to extend plays or get out.  

Only game he hasn't been weak IMO

[NanuqoftheNorth]

Ron's just gotten the Panthers to the big dance.

I'm going to defer to his judgement on this one.

[1989]

37 minutes ago, KillerKat said:

CJ and Allen are the same player. You would've seen the same results if CJ was benched. I've said all along both of them should not be starting at the same time. And lately I've favored Allen more than CJ because at least he's shown something in the playoffs while CJ hasn't.  Kony just needed to be starting over someone.

CJ had a great game.  Had a sack+forced fumble and was around the QB all game.

[Ken]

Don't agree. We had a lot of pressure last game. Russel Wilson is just very good at escaping pressure. IF Allen is good to go he should play/start. 

Doesn't get more stationary than Peyton Manning. 

[Ken]

21 minutes ago, CRA said:

You have to rush Sea different than pocket passers.  He fit bc the DEs are largely playing contain with a QB looking to extend plays or get out.  

Only game he hasn't been weak IMO

His last 2-3 games he has been getting pressure(no sacks tho) Re-watch them. He played good.

[miko dawg]

We're good. Allen's part of the formula.  Don't start tweaking.  Although the question is valid.

[arieslibra1]

2 hours ago, KillerKat said:

CJ and Allen are the same player. You would've seen the same results if CJ was benched. I've said all along both of them should not be starting at the same time. And lately I've favored Allen more than CJ because at least he's shown something in the playoffs while CJ hasn't.  Kony just needed to be starting over someone.

I'd start him over CJ. That way CAR's pass rush would deadly from the left side to the right side. Atleast Allen gets to the QB sometimes.

[arieslibra1]

1 hour ago, TheNewStandard said:

CJ had a good game tonight. I'd take his contributions tonight over any other end on our roster. 

Is he 12 million good? Heck no, but he played well tonight.

What did he do? I honestly don't remember him doing anything. All I can recall is Short and the other ends getting to the QB.

[GRWatcher]

30 minutes ago, arieslibra1 said:

What did he do? I honestly don't remember him doing anything. All I can recall is Short and the other ends getting to the QB.

CJ had 1 of the team's 3 sacks. CJ, Kyle Love & Short had 1 each. How did you not see that?

[arieslibra1]

5 minutes ago, GRWatcher said:

CJ had 1 of the team's 3 sacks. CJ, Kyle Love & Short had 1 each. How did you not see that?

I must have been at the concession stand when that happened. I did see Love and Short's sacks.

[Thal]

Allen is a lucky son of gun, just landing on a superbowl team like that.

[TheNewStandard]

4 hours ago, arieslibra1 said:

What did he do? I honestly don't remember him doing anything. All I can recall is Short and the other ends getting to the QB.

He forced a fumble and was basically either all up in Palmer's face all game or was clogging running lanes. 

The Cards got most of their runs right up the middle. 

[Verge]

CJ had a great game yesterday, wtf are you people smoking?

[The Lobo]

CJ was a beast last night.