Former Offensive Lineman Ben Muth wrote lots of words about Panthers run game

[electro's horse]

It's worth reading. There's also moving pictures for the less reading incline.

It has to be tough a tough offense to prepare for and even tougher one to play against. If I was an unblocked defensive lineman, I would have no idea what was coming

http://www.footballoutsiders.com/word-muth/2016/word-muth-panthers-run-game

[d-dave]

Yep, this has been said over and over this year:  can you stop all of it?  Can you figure it out all the time?

So far, nope.

Denver does have a great D, but how well they stack up against our running game is going to determine the outcome.  Also, how well will they play 11/11 ball instead of the usual 10/11.  So far so good for us, and I hope it continues!

[Peppers90 NC]

Great article. And I am quoting about how we handled the interior blitz that is still embedded in my mind from that 2013 game versus this team. We were expecting it and handled it, and looked damn good in doing it. It wont be much of what we see on Sunday, but I am confident we will be prepared.

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This was a third-and-long that went for an 80-yard touchdown late in the first quarter. I could be wrong, but it looks like Carolina is in man protection with a hole call by the center (the way he backpedals straight back to get on the guards’ level is why that’s my guess for the protection, but I could be wrong). That would mean the offensive line is responsible for the four down defensive linemen and the Mike linebacker. Of course, the Cardinals have zero down, so you have to get creative on how you ID who is who up front. One thing that seems certain is that Calais Campbell (93) is labeled as a defensive end even though he’s lined up as a 3-technique, so Oher is sliding down to block him man to man.

Carolina seemed to check to this protection every time the Cardinals gave them double 3-techniques from nickel or dime personnel (something Arizona showed a lot on third downs). It really helped them sort out interior blitzes from the Cardinals. The advantage of the hole technique from the center is that all three interior offensive linemen end up on the same level, which makes it easy to pass off crossing blitzers.

Here, it worked great, but I can’t imagine that we’ll see a ton of it in the Super Bowl. The thing about man protections is they’re great for the interior integrity of the pocket, but they really put a lot of pressure on your tackles. The Cardinals’ biggest weakest on defense was probably their pass rush off the edge (even after the Dwight Freeney signing), so it made sense that Carolina would focus on pass protections that helped minimize some of the exotic interior blitzes Arizona runs. But Denver’s edge rushers are absolute studs, and it will be interesting to see what Carolina does from a protection standpoint to minimize Miller and Ware.

 

[thefuzz]

A lot of words for him to say that we have one of the most complex and complete running games in NFL history.

 

If the first half is a slugfest, I fully expect us to pull away later in the game, that running game can and will wear out even the best defenses.

[Bartin]

Markus Golden just got toyed with for that entire game. I suspect Ware will be a little better.

[electro's horse]

46 minutes ago, Bartin said:

Markus Golden just got toyed with for that entire game. I suspect Ware will be a little better.

they're completely different players. 

[Bartin]

28 minutes ago, electro's horse said:

they're completely different players. 

Obviously but they both play the same position, ROLB in a 3-4, and Ware will have the same responsibilities that Golden had in the run game.

[csx]

Interesting article.

[nickzz]

MOVING PICTURES U SAY?

[electro's horse]

2 hours ago, Bartin said:

Obviously but they both play the same position, ROLB in a 3-4, and Ware will have the same responsibilities that Golden had in the run game.

thats basically the extent to which you compare them. the way they lineup, where they lineup, and their responsibilities on a play by play basis are vastly different. 

Theres a lot more to football than 3-4 v 4-3

[Peppers90 NC]

2 hours ago, Bartin said:

Obviously but they both play the same position, ROLB in a 3-4, and Ware will have the same responsibilities that Golden had in the run game.

dont be that guy that compares Golden to Ware or Miller. I'd equate that to the guy that compares Cam to RG3 or Kap.

[electro's horse]

Oversimplifying defensive schemes is a recurring theme on this board. 

[Bartin]

Just now, Peppers90 NC said:

dont be that guy that compares Golden to Ware or Miller. I'd equate that to the guy that compares Cam to RG3 or Kap.

I'm not comparing them. I'm saying they will have the exact same responsibilities against our running game when we leave the rush end unblocked. Golden was a disaster. He was timid and indecisive which is worse than doing the wrong thing on a read play. I expect Ware and Miller to be much better than that.

[Peppers90 NC]

Just now, Bartin said:

I'm not comparing them. I'm saying they will have the exact same responsibilities against our running game when we leave the rush end unblocked. Golden was a disaster. He was timid and indecisive which is worse than doing the wrong thing on a read play. I expect Ware and Miller to be much better than that.

ok, my bad.