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Brandon Marshall:"Panthers did everything we saw on film"

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NanuqoftheNorth Grand Master

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Panthers had been in control of virtually all their games this season.

They were the ones dictating the course of events.

It is not unreasonable, especially after two big playoff wins, for the coaches to decide "not to fix what wasn't broken".

Make Denver dance to our tune, impose Carolina's will on them.  

Might have worked too, except for that fact that Denver was able to impose their will on the Panthers.

Seems like our coaches were caught completely off guard and never recovered.

TLDR:  Always have a "Plan B".

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12 minutes ago, SZ James (banned) said:

Does anyone here agree that perhaps the shitty playcalling resulted in more turnovers? Newton was sacked 7 times and pressured who even knows how many times. The fact is when the defense predicts what you're going to run every single down the turnovers are inevitable no matter how talented you are.

I must be crazy.

You are crazy!!! Who cares if the No.1 defense in the league knows what play you're running before snap?  Players have to execute no matter what! (sarcasm)

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37 minutes ago, SZ James (banned) said:

Does anyone here agree that perhaps the shitty playcalling resulted in more turnovers? Newton was sacked 7 times and pressured who even knows how many times. The fact is when the defense predicts what you're going to run every single down the turnovers are inevitable no matter how talented you are.

I must be crazy.

We still out gained them by 100+ yards.  We gave them 3 short fields, and we still could have won had Cam and Tolbert held onto the ball.

Shula didn't have a great gameplan, but it was working, the turnovers killed this team, like it does to most teams.

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15 hours ago, NanuqoftheNorth said:

Panthers had been in control of virtually all their games this season.

They were the ones dictating the course of events.

It is not unreasonable, especially after two big playoff wins, for the coaches to decide "not to fix what wasn't broken".

Make Denver dance to our tune, impose Carolina's will on them.  

Might have worked too, except for that fact that Denver was able to impose their will on the Panthers.

Seems like our coaches were caught completely off guard and never recovered.

TLDR:  Always have a "Plan B".

Like I said yesterday, everybody has a plan, until you get hit in the mouth.

 

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7 minutes ago, Promethean Forerunner said:

Remember when I said that what we were doing to other teams wasn't special? That we were just just punching other teams in the mouth and bullying them? We met our match on Sunday. That was one of the few times this season where we needed strong coaching to win a game. We failed horribly on that spectrum. I know I'm beating a dead horse here but Shula's "intellect" shined ever so brightly when we needed him to do something that didn't require Cam to be Superman.

 

This game didn't require a superman effort from Cam, from Remmers and Oher....maybe, but not Cam.

 

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Just now, SZ James (banned) said:

Does anyone here agree that perhaps the shitty playcalling resulted in more turnovers? Newton was sacked 7 times and pressured who even knows how many times. The fact is when the defense predicts what you're going to run every single down the turnovers are inevitable no matter how talented you are.

I must be crazy.

I think most of the offensive game plan was bad. Not sure what film they watched to prepare for the Broncos, but they clearly chose not to use the Chiefs film.

They key to the pressures are always predicated on Demarcus Ware. Von Miller is the gunner, but Ware is the key. They want teams to focus on Miller and have Ware sneak in to pressure up the middle. When Miller is coming full tilt off the edge, Ware is coming from the other side across the field. He reads the QB. If the QB stays in the pocket, Ware comes up the middle. If the QB tries to break around Miller's rush, Ware will pursue down the LoS and take care of contain on Miller's side.

You do not key Miller when he rushes. You key Ware stunting into the middle. When this happens the Broncos open up the left side of the field and there is only the DE to beat. If the QB stays in the pocket or loops to the right side, they have to beat Ware and Miller.

Either Shula missed this huge advantage for the Panthers in the film or Cam Newton did not do what he was told. Cam would have avoided many pressures and been able to come up with gains on the ground or in the air. The Chiefs game showed this weakness about the Broncos defense. The Panthers rushed 3 times around the left side for 38 yards. Cam should have been prepared to break the pocket to the left side and he was not. This falls on Shula preparing and putting his players in a position to win.

On the first turnover, if Cam rolls out to his left as soon as Ware stunts inside, he has open field to run and both Tolbert and Olsen as receivers or blockers. He also had Ginn open deep against Roby. Miller would have been in a chase position the entire play.

If Remmers holds his one on one block, or if they kept Tolbert in to double Miller, then Cam gets his throw off to Ginn deep. Ginn beat the coverage and Cam saw it. If Ginn catches the ball, it would have been an 85 yard TD.

The risky choice of all 3 options was Remmers one on one with Miller and leaving Cam in the pocket with a long developing route.

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2 minutes ago, Promethean Forerunner said:

Oher did an admirable job. Remmers not so much.

Well, my point is if Cam wasn't going to be Superman that night, then we needed Shula to actually do some coaching, and he let this franchise down.

Again, not accurate.  

The Super Bowl did't require a herculean effort from Cam, honestly only an efficient one, along with an efficient game from Stew, Olsen, Tolbert, Ginn, etc....

We didn't get it. 

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