How Would You Feel if The Panthers Drafted Derrick Henry in the 1st?

[top dawg]

I had no idea that Henry was that big. What does G-man say abut big men?

[teeray]

I dont mind if we draft a RB.  But Henry is overrated IMO

[tiger7_88]

28 minutes ago, Mage said:

Yeldon had a very good rookie year.  

Couldn't stay healthy.  Played in 12 games (a tad over 60 yds per game).  Only scored 2 rushing TDs.

 

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 Ingram has been great the last 2-3 years.

Also can never stay healthy.  Five years in the league and has never rushed for 1000 yds in a season.

 

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Lacy had a very good first 2 years, weight got out of control last year but was still productive down the stretch.

Best of the mentioned bunch.  *Has* been able to stay healthy.  Might possibly eat himself out of a job.

[Mage]

13 minutes ago, SOJA said:

BAD real fuging bad 

Let's look at the past Alabama running backs who were all going to dominate the league

Mark Ingram, Trent Richardson lol, Eddie "Cheeseburger" Lacy,

Less notable: Glen Coffee

Yeldon was ALRIGHT his rookie year

Not one of those guys has panned out- WHY? Because Alabama dominates recruiting and always has a beastly O-line. 

 

How is their success rate that much, if any, different than other schools?  We're criticizing them just because they generate more NFL RBs than most schools.  Of course all of them aren't going to turn into All-Pros, but acting like Alabama backs have been bad is just spreading false information.

Ingram had a slow start to his career, although I partially blame that on Payton mis-using him (which, in my opinion, they still do - they go away from him far too much), but he's ran extremely well the last 3 years.  The reason he hasn't lived up to his first round selection has more to do with health than talent.  As a back, he's extremely talented.   Tough to bring down.  1000+ yards from scrimmage the last 2 years despite missing a lot of action.

Laugh at Lacy all you want, but he has been productive too.  Even in a year where his weight got out of control, he produced down the stretch.  Besides, Lacy wasn't the prospect that Henry was.  Completely unfair to try and compare the two.  Yeldon had over 1000 YFS his rookie year.  And again, he wasn't the prospect Henry is.

Like I said, you evaluate the skill-set, not the school.  What about Henry that you have seen makes you think he will flame out in the NFL?  Not saying he doesn't have his flaws.  There are things about him that concern me, but dismissing him just because he played for Alabama is lousy analysis.  

[SOJA]

1 minute ago, Mage said:

How is their success rate that much, if any, different than other schools?  We're criticizing them just because they generate more NFL RBs than most schools.  Of course all of them aren't going to turn into All-Pros, but acting like Alabama backs have been bad is just spreading false information.

Ingram had a slow start to his career, although I partially blame that on Payton mis-using him (which, in my opinion, they still do - they go away from him far too much), but he's ran extremely well the last 3 years.  The reason he hasn't lived up to his first round selection has more to do with health than talent.  As a back, he's extremely talented.   Tough to bring down.  1000+ yards from scrimmage the last 2 years despite missing a lot of action.

Laugh at Lacy all you want, but he has been productive too.  Even in a year where his weight got out of control, he produced down the stretch.  Besides, Lacy wasn't the prospect that Henry was.  Completely unfair to try and compare the two.  Yeldon had over 1000 YFS his rookie year.  And again, he wasn't the prospect Henry is.

Like I said, you evaluate the skill-set, not the school.  What about Henry that you have seen makes you think he will flame out in the NFL?  Not saying he doesn't have his flaws.  There are things about him that concern me, but dismissing him just because he played for Alabama is lousy analysis.  

^ found the Bama fan

Henry doesn't have home run speed, is very tall will be easy to bring down, his legs look skinny, and he benefited from playing behind an all star O-line (the bama factor)

 

let me be clear though, I'm no GM so if Gettleman likes Henry I'll be all in on him 

[Mage]

22 minutes ago, CRA said:

Well you have to factor in how a school used him.  Alabama has abused certain players.  He won a Heisman off workload volume. 

He could be a good NFL RB.  Not a first round type player though

I agree with you.  Not so much worried about his workload in college so much his height, though.  I think he will be susceptible to a LOT of knee injuries in the NFL.  That alone would make me avoid him like the plague in the first round.

I just hate how some people are automatically dismissing his talent just because he played at Alabama.  He's a very talented football player.  Seems like some people haven't watched him play, he's quite elusive and displays terrific vision.  Made a lot of fantastic cutbacks in the games I have seen of him.  Runs too upright at times but is extremely physical, which will translate at the next level because there aren't a lot of guys like him.  I think in this draft class, he is a first round talent (this, IMO, is a very weak offensive class) but I wouldn't take him until the 3rd because of injury concerns.

[Gin and Juice]

1 hour ago, Jase said:

The real question is how will we feel when we draft another LB?

Scooby Wright screams DG type pick. 

[nctarheel0619]

21 minutes ago, SOJA said:

BAD real fuging bad 

Let's look at the past Alabama running backs who were all going to dominate the league

Mark Ingram, Trent Richardson lol, Eddie "Cheeseburger" Lacy,

Less notable: Glen Coffee

Yeldon was ALRIGHT his rookie year

Not one of those guys has panned out- WHY? Because Alabama dominates recruiting and always has a beastly O-line. 

 

Eddie Lacy AKA Obese Mode.  

[Mage]

Just now, SOJA said:

^ found the Bama fan

Henry doesn't have home run speed, is very tall will be easy to bring down, his legs look skinny, and he benefited from playing behind an all star O-line (the bama factor)

let me be clear though, I'm no GM so if Gettleman likes Henry I'll be all in on him 

I'm far from an Alabama fan, although I do like seeing them win because it annoys people.

I'm just giving my POV.  Henry definitely isn't easy to bring down, again it seems like you haven't watched him play if you think he just benefited from his offensive line.  He created a lot of holes for himself through his vision, elusiveness, and power.  As far as his speed, again have you seen him play?  He isn't Chris Johnson but he has a great second gear.  

[Gin and Juice]

You can't coach his size! I hated the Benji pick and I would hate this one....seems like he is our guy! Lol

[tiger7_88]

3 minutes ago, Mage said:

I'm far from an Alabama fan, although I do like seeing them win because it annoys people.

^^^^Found the Yankees fan.

:P

[SOJA]

1 minute ago, Mage said:

I'm far from an Alabama fan, although I do like seeing them win because it annoys people.

I'm just giving my POV.  Henry definitely isn't easy to bring down, again it seems like you haven't watched him play if you think he just benefited from his offensive line.  He created a lot of holes for himself through his vision, elusiveness, and power.  As far as his speed, again have you seen him play?  He isn't Chris Johnson but he has a great second gear.  

NFL does not equal SEC, guys in the NFL will gameplan to hit him low which doesn't usually bode well with a high center of gravity

seen enough- calm down we don't all have time to watch cfb all day

this is so cliche I can't even

in the NFL everyone is fast

 

he's not a first round pick in my book

[Mage]

3 minutes ago, SOJA said:

NFL does not equal SEC, guys in the NFL will gameplan to hit him low which doesn't usually bode well with a high center of gravity

Henry is physically imposing. It isn't like the idea of hitting a running back low is something only professional athletes think to do, otherwise they'd just do it to Cam.  Henry won't be easy to bring down.  His leg power is tremendous.

Of course everyone in the NFL is fast.  You acting as if Henry's speed is a detriment though is what I'm disagreeing with.  He has a very good second gear, good enough to create separation from someone in open space.  He will probably run somewhere near a 4.47-4.5.  That is why I asked if you had seen him play.  Henry's speed is not a question unless someone is just assuming it based off his size.  The guy is physically imposing.

 

 

[panthers34]

2 hours ago, nctarheel0619 said:

Unlike when we picked Benjamin, and Shaq.  I would be extremely pissed.  This guy is Trent Richardson 2.0.  Except this kid looks like the Predator.  

Richardson had the worst vision and shuffled his feet too much. Eddie Lacy would be a better comparison in my opinion