Positions that need to be filled before the draft.

[NcPsa10]

Just now, Mr. Scot said:

Not 'poking' anything.  Asked you a question to give you something to think about.

This had noting to do with you but yet you come a running , They told me to take a look at my life , well i invite anyone to come take a look at it 

[Mr. Scot]

2 minutes ago, NcPsa10 said:

This had noting to do with you but yet you come a running , They told me to take a look at my life , well i invite anyone to come take a look at it 

Don't know anything about your life.  Don't really need to know to make the point that there are some situations too sketchy for a football team to put up with.  A player having any sort of issue with domestic violence is one of them.

Given the tone of the league right now, it's quite possible that nobody at all will touch Hardy. 

But if anyone does, it's probably not gonna be the Panthers.

[MHS831]

I really don't think NCpsa10 meant any harm, and I kind of forced him into defense mode.  But there is a time to bow out and not defend a flawed perspective.  NCpsa10, you didn't.  I didn't mean to make it personal, so I apologize if you felt attacked.  However, I do encourage you to consider my point (and Mr Scott's) because your counterpoint was probably not how you truly feel. 

[jayflip]

7 hours ago, KB_fan said:

WRs graded 60 or better.    VERY THIN market for WRs.  Probably means Boldin will be way out of our Price Range.

Kyle Williams	60	WR	28	Broncos	0	UFA
Justin Blackmon	60	WR	26	Jaguars	0	UFA
Brandon Gibson	60	WR	29	Patriots	0	UFA
Brian Tyms	60	WR	27	Patriots	0	UFA
Josh Boyce	60	WR	26	Patriots	0	UFA
Jason Avant	61.9	WR	33	Chiefs	425	UFA
Chris Givens	62.9	WR	26	Ravens	501	UFA
Percy Harvin	63.8	WR	28	Bills	243	UFA
Rueben Randle	66.4	WR	25	Giants	1016	UFA
Wes Welker	66.4	WR	35	Rams	106	UFA
Rod Streater	66.9	WR	28	Raiders	10	UFA
Nate Washington	67.0	WR	33	Texans	849	UFA
Marc Mariani	74	WR	29	Bears	535	UFA
James Jones	76.5	WR	32	Packers	1205	UFA
Anquan Boldin	79.6	WR	35	49ers	776	UFA

 

Lol I forgot about Justin Blakmon. 

[KB_fan]

3 hours ago, jayflip said:

Lol I forgot about Justin Blakmon. 

I'm assuming he was on IR all year?  0 snaps.....

PFF uses 60 as it's base grade for players in such cases.  That's why I chose it as a cut off, as it kind of seems to be a thing that Gettleman will take a chance on bringing players in who are coming back from injuries.

[Mr. Scot]

1 minute ago, KB_fan said:

I'm assuming he was on IR all year?  0 snaps.....

PFF uses 60 as it's base grade for players in such cases.  That's why I chose it as a cut off, as it kind of seems to be a thing that Gettleman will take a chance on bringing players in who are coming back from injuries.

Suspended for repeated violations of the drug policy.

He's not coming here.

[KB_fan]

9 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

Suspended for repeated violations of the drug policy.

He's not coming here.

thanks for the info. 

[TheNewStandard]

I'm thinking a savvy veteran safety, maybe not to start, but to be a locker-room presence to help tutor a rookie and for situational downs.

Same think at CB

We need to re-sign Love and Delaire if they're up for FA...otherwise, we need to find a player who's either hunting a championship or one who needs a year or two as a prove-it contract.

we could use another lineman or two for competition.

We need a solid Receiver or TE that can help move the sticks a couple of times if all else fails. Having Tolbert and Dickson coming back may make having that move the sticks guy redundant and I'm hoping Dickson takes a step forward with his best football ahead of him...

Thats just nit-picking, because I feel like we should be favored to win the championship from the get-go, so I'm just hoping we can get some good value out of the FA pool and draft some guys who can come right in and play at a solid level.

[iamhubby1]

12 hours ago, KB_fan said:

Here are Safeties graded 60 and higher who are currently UFAs

Ryan Mundy	60	S	31	Bears	0	UFA
Louis Delmas	60	S	29	Dolphins	0	UFA
Antonio Allen	60	S	27	Jets	0	UFA
Larry Asante	61.2	S	28	Raiders	370	UFA
Chris Prosinski	61.9	S	29	Bears	342	UFA
Sherrod Martin	63.2	S	31	Bears	24	UFA
James Ihedigbo	63.4	S	32	Lions	604	UFA
Colt Anderson	63.5	S	30	Colts	162	UFA
Jamarca Sanford	64.4	S	31	Saints	105	UFA
Taylor Mays	64.6	S	28	Raiders	322	UFA
Nate Ebner	65.4	S	26	Patriots	49	UFA
Danny McCray	67.1	S	28	Cowboys	2	UFA
Rashad Johnson	71	S	30	Cardinals	1009	UFA
Quintin Demps	72	S	31	Texans	836	UFA
Will Allen	73.4	S	34	Steelers	962	UFA
David Bruton	76	S	29	Broncos	497	UFA
Eric Weddle	77.9	S	31	Chargers	769	UFA
Chris Conte	78	S	27	Buccaneers	758	UFA
Walter Thurmond	79.3	S	29	Eagles	1219	UFA
Husain Abdullah	80.2	S	31	Chiefs	496	UFA
Reggie Nelson	84.2	S	32	Bengals	1092	UFA

 

But...Gooby told me that Wheedle is washed up. I am now totally confused.

 

11 hours ago, TheRumGone said:

I agree. Doesn't mean we can't add boldin and then draft a receiver with a skill set you're talking about. We literally have four WRs who deal with the dropsies. Betting on a rookie to be that sure handed is playing with fire a bit I think. 

I really am ok with what we have at receiver if we don't get boldin. It would just be nice to get a vet. And boldin fits what we do here.

 

I concur with maybe needing a Vet WR. BUT, IMO, he had better play the slot. KB, and Fun Fun on the outside, quality Slot guy clearing the middle. What will that do for Olson? The one type WR we don't have is a quality slot.

 

So I do now solemnly avow. I am on the give me a productive slot this year. I don't care whence he came. Rookie? I don't care. 10 year Vet? I don't care. Yo mama? I don't care. If they can contribute from the slot. I covet them.

 

8 hours ago, WOW!! said:

Re-sign Love and Amini or go after Hicks and resign Amini

Sign a CB and Safety. .

BPA in the draft..

 

But what about Amini?

[TheNewStandard]

10 hours ago, top dawg said:

 I don't think that you necessarily have to bet on a rookie to be sure-handed, some are and some aren't.  Basically, if you are sure-handed I don't think that coming to the NFL is going to make you any less. Once a sure-handed receiver, always a sure-handed receiver, that's why this type of guy should be put at a premium on our list as far as I'm concerned. Now, of course, if we draft a rookie with suspect hands, that may be a problem. I wouldn't add another receiver whose hands we have to hope can be fixed (and that includes a TE). I just wouldn't do it.

To hell with the JUGs machine, we can draft a guy with good hands. The fact of the matter is, the way that Ron (and by extension, G-man

I've been banging-the-drum about having Cam throw to WRs instead of using the jugs so that we can get a proper gauge on a prospects hands.

i don't know, it just makes too much sense in my mind but Gman doesn't do the workouts that way.

[iamhubby1]

1 hour ago, KB_fan said:

I'm assuming he was on IR all year?  0 snaps.....

PFF uses 60 as it's base grade for players in such cases.  That's why I chose it as a cut off, as it kind of seems to be a thing that Gettleman will take a chance on bringing players in who are coming back from injuries.

 

Here's an old school truth for ya. If you are going to take a chance on a player. Pick the good one coming off a bad year, over the question mark coming off a good year. You're welcome.

 

8 minutes ago, TheNewStandard said:

I'm thinking a savvy veteran safety, maybe not to start, but to be a locker-room presence to help tutor a rookie and for situational downs.

Same think at CB

We need to re-sign Love and Delaire if they're up for FA...otherwise, we need to find a player who's either hunting a championship or one who needs a year or two as a prove-it contract.

we could use another lineman or two for competition.

We need a solid Receiver or TE that can help move the sticks a couple of times if all else fails. Having Tolbert and Dickson coming back may make having that move the sticks guy redundant and I'm hoping Dickson takes a step forward with his best football ahead of him...

Thats just nit-picking, because I feel like we should be favored to win the championship from the get-go, so I'm just hoping we can get some good value out of the FA pool and draft some guys who can come right in and play at a solid level.

 

Ok, I'll play. S? who the hellz knows? Do we go with the Kids and hope our faith in them is rewarded? Or do we bring in a Vet to help get them to that point. And if we do bring one in? Do we bring in a starter? Or one just good enough to push Boston and Marlow?

 

CB needs to be addressed just a tad differently. We need starting material badly. And we need a replacement for Jno. Here is my dream solution. We get a quality Vet in the Peanut mold. The grab one in the draft? Gon be interesting to see how they address this one.

 

Love, and a quality Back-up DT? Or quality Back-up  DT, and a quality high pick? We need a solid 4 man rotation. Right now we have two. Git er don.

 

Same with DE. We know we have CJ, and Ealy. Outside of that, we have a bunch of kids. I think we give it a go for a quality addition. Throw some money, OR a high draft pick at it. Let the kids develop. Win Win.

 

WR? If we bring one in. I want him to play the slot. Well. Hellz, really well. If we draft a WR. I want him to play the slot. Well. Hellz, really wellz.

 

Truth be told. We could pretty much stand pat, with just adding the draft, and still contend for the Big One. All we really need to do is keep drafting talented kids. Pretty simple really.

 

So any Vet we bring in from here on out, pretty much has to be of starter material. Which leaves WR, NB, and maybe S as our only FA needs. We have a few dollars, so I could see us spending some of it. Just how? I gots nuttin. 

 

OK, ok. A Vet DT that can fit the rotation is still on the table. Doesn't need to be a starter, but he needs to be able to contribute. I also think we need to draft KKs replacement this year. Give the kid 2 years to grow before we lose KK. (I just think he is going to cost too much. Nothing personal)

[TheNewStandard]

Yeah, I don't think we can manage both Star and Short's contract...the strange thing...is that KK really wasn't even named the starter until this season, so who really knows which one is more valuable...they're both monsters.

i agree we need to draft players who will be ready to start, full-time in 2-3 years, at S, DE,DT and Corner. That's gonna take a ton of good fortune and a ton of Gettlemagic. 

Most pertinent, imo, is signing a startable Corner and re-signing Love...the rest we can get from the draft.

If Addison and Big Frank are ready to go (don't think they're FAs,) I think we're good at DE, knowing that Ealy can slide over to play DT.

[iamhubby1]

17 minutes ago, TheNewStandard said:

Yeah, I don't think we can manage both Star and Short's contract...the strange thing...is that KK really wasn't even named the starter until this season, so who really knows which one is more valuable...they're both monsters.

i agree we need to draft players who will be ready to start, full-time in 2-3 years, at S, DE,DT and Corner. That's gonna take a ton of good fortune and a ton of Gettlemagic. 

Most pertinent, imo, is signing a startable Corner and re-signing Love...the rest we can get from the draft.

If Addison and Big Frank are ready to go (don't think they're FAs,) I think we're good at DE, knowing that Ealy can slide over to play DT.

 

I would say that if you are going to get lucky. Get lucky with a DE that can slide inside on passing downs. Kill 2 birds with 1 stone. At least for this year. But then again. Who knows what Gman, and Rivera are thinking?

 

Technically, besides NB, all our starting spots are taken. If Gman can add a few pieces of need. The draft can go as planned. Just pick a talented kid and be done with it.

 

Oh, and the team does love Addison. He is another of those players coming into his 3rd year. We have a bunch of kids. Bring in too many Vets, and it could back-fire. Don't bring In enough, it could back-fire. Trusting in your kids, can make you better, or it can bite you on the azz. Which way are we heading?

 

And Frank ain't coming back. He isn't even allowed back until Nov.

[panthers1234]

16 hours ago, panther4life said:

Colston and Boldin come to mind for vet WR's. I think both could/would be an upgrade over what Cotchery was. 

Boldin yes. I don't know if you have been following Colston this past year but he really sucks now. It is all about what you are doing in the present and what you can bring in the future. Colston is poo right now and he will be slower poo in a year or 2.