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Panthers trading out of Round 1 more likely


Frank Hollywood

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1 hour ago, chknwing said:

u know if I am gettlemen and lynch is there at 30, knowing cleveland, and other teams want him.  I call denver and say look, u want this guy or what?  Were gonna trade out to a qb team unless you swap spots for a 3rd or 4th. just see what happens.He gets to keep his 5th year option.

I love this! We lose nothing, since we know their pick, and we should be able to easily trade 62, 93 and 94 to move into the early to mid 40's and snag an immediate impact player. Have you been re-watching Draft Day? Costner would approve.

I assume that Denver would jump at this chance.

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I started a thread a couple months ago speculating on Dallas and us backing up about 5 spots and the same dollars, dimes, 5th year options talk came up.

If Lynch is there, we will get offers, guess it just depends on who wants it more

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Just now, La Pantera said:

if im the browns  i use my two 1st rounder to get watson next draft

 

Ideally, but the problem there is if the team at #1, lets say the 49ers, also needs a QB then they aren't giving up that pick pretty much no matter what you offer. Philly offered like three 1sts, two 2nds, two 3rds and any QB on their roster(Bradford) to the Titans last year to try and get Mariota and the Titans said no because they needed a QB and Mariota is a franchise QB prospect like Watson will be. You don't trade away the opportunity to draft one when you need one.

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2 minutes ago, Bartin said:

Ideally, but the problem there is if the team at #1, lets say the 49ers, also needs a QB then they aren't giving up that pick pretty much no matter what you offer. Philly offered like three 1sts, two 2nds, two 3rds and any QB on their roster(Bradford) to the Titans last year to try and get Mariota and the Titans said no because they needed a QB and Mariota is a franchise QB prospect like Watson will be. You don't trade away the opportunity to draft one when you need one.

you're absolutely right. but hell browns could land the 1st overall pick any way .the 9ers are the biggest threat to that scenario. a lot of your bottom feeders will have qbs.

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