Jump to content
  • Welcome!

    Register and log in easily with Twitter or Google accounts!

    Or simply create a new Huddle account. 

    Members receive fewer ads , access our dark theme, and the ability to join the discussion!

     

Gettleman's impressive draft history


Recommended Posts

Since Gettleman has taken over as our GM, our drafts have been pretty damn good.  

In his 3 years, we have drafted 16 players. Including:

Kawaan Short (Starting probowl DT)

Star Lotulelei (Starting DT)

Trai Turner (Starting probowl RG)

Kony Ealy (Starting DE)

Shaq Thompson (Starting OLB)

Bene Benwikere (Starting CB)

Kelvin Benjamin (Starting WR)

Devin Funchess (Starting WR)

Daryl Williams (Future starting RT)

Tre Boston (Starting Safety)

A.J. Klein (Key rotational LB)

Cameron Artis-Payne (Key RB depth)

David Mayo (Key Special teamer)

Only Misses:

Tyler Gaffney (Injured in training camp and stolen by the Patriots)

Edmund Kugbila (Injured OL)

Kenjon Barner (Traded to Eagles)


That is fuggin impressive.  Find another team in the league that can say they drafted productive players over 80% of the time!!  It could even be argued that his misses were often injury related. 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

I still caution people about the law of averages...

 

Also, you likely are getting to far ahead on some of those hits.  Was Keary Colbert a hit or miss? Need more time to see what some of those dudes listed really are 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

i posted it last night in another thread so i'm going off memory

but between 2009-2012 hurney drafted 32 players.  out of those 32 we got hardy, norman, cam, and kuechly whom i'd consider elite or on the cusp plus lafell and munnerlyn who were serviceable and still in the league.

the rest was pretty much inconsequential

i screencapped the '09-'12 drafts here-

h1.PNG

h2.PNG

h3.PNG

h4.PNG

 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

1 minute ago, CRA said:

I still caution people about the law of averages...

 

Also, you likely are getting to far ahead on some of those hits.  Was Keary Colbert a hit or miss? Need more time to see what some of those dudes listed really are 

Are we looking at a regression to the mean, or a pattern of sustained quality drafts? With drafts having an element of skill vs luck, I would think the latter. 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

1 minute ago, The NFL Shield At Midfield said:

i posted it last night in another thread so i'm going off memory

but between 2009-2012 hurney drafted 32 players.  out of those 32 we got hardy, norman, cam, and kuechly whom i'd consider elite or on the cusp plus lafell and munnerlyn who were serviceable and still in the league.

the rest was pretty much inconsequential

i screencapped the '09-'12 drafts here-

 

  Spoiler Alert!

 

h1.PNG

h2.PNG

h3.PNG

h4.PNG

 

 

 

In fairness, you can't really cherry pick a guy's draft history like that.  

But even in that window you mentioned...Cam and Luke were grand slam home runs and are the foundation of the team Gettlemen now has 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

15 minutes ago, The NFL Shield At Midfield said:

i posted it last night in another thread so i'm going off memory

but between 2009-2012 hurney drafted 32 players.  out of those 32 we got hardy, norman, cam, and kuechly whom i'd consider elite or on the cusp plus lafell and munnerlyn who were serviceable and still in the league.

the rest was pretty much inconsequential

i screencapped the '09-'12 drafts here-

 

  Hide contents

 

h1.PNG

h2.PNG

h3.PNG

h4.PNG

 

 

 

I almost feel like he could've pulled names out of a hat and done much better.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

9 minutes ago, CRA said:

In fairness, you can't really cherry pick a guy's draft history like that.  

But even in that window you mentioned...Cam and Luke were grand slam home runs and are the foundation of the team Gettlemen now has 

yeah they're excellent pieces

2012 and 2014 proved that a team with both of them on it is perfectly capable of having a losing season so i don't buy this notion that seems to be bandied about (not necessarily by you) that gettleman is just coasting on this much ballyhooed "hurney core"

the bottom half of the roster is just as important as the top and hurney really sucked at filling it out during his final years here.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

40 minutes ago, CRA said:

In fairness, you can't really cherry pick a guy's draft history like that.  

But even in that window you mentioned...Cam and Luke were grand slam home runs and are the foundation of the team Gettlemen now has 

 

Cam and Luke are grand slams but they were #1 and #8 overall. Honestly I give Rivera more credit than Hurney for those picks anyways.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

10 minutes ago, jfo89 said:

 

Cam and Luke are grand slams but they were #1 and #8 overall. Honestly I give Rivera more credit than Hurney for those picks anyways.

People act like first round picks are gimmies...they aren't. 

Hurney hit those every year.  I mean we basically discredit everything about the dude at this point.  He constantly hit.  I don't think you can take that away from him. 

Teans can go a decade and never get a Cam or Luke.  We got 2 during a cherry picked bad window of drafting 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Thats because we had 2 top 10 picks in that cherry picked window. You know how much research teams put into their top picks. Visiting family, prior coaches and team mates and having multiple visits with the player. Top draft picks, especially that high, should be gimmes.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Archived

This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.


  • PMH4OWPW7JD2TDGWZKTOYL2T3E.jpg

  • Topics

  • Posts

    • Can we stop with the stupid attention whore hot take type posts and just enjoy a winning streak for once? 
    • Every player has faults, and many times they can be categorized neatly into obvious traits that make analysis pretty straight-forward. A running back who thrives in zone schemes where their vision and patience is rewarded may struggle when asked to play a physical, violent, north-south style. A quarterback who can make every throw under the sun may never grasp the schematic purpose of the plays he is being asked to run and therefore constantly makes the wrong decision or no decision even with players running free. But the narrative for Bryce Young has almost consistently focused on his size and overall physicality in a league full of supermen, and how it places a hard limit on his ability to do things like shrug off blockers or throw tactical nuclear strikes from 80 yards out. Two seasons plus in hasn't put those concerns fully to rest, but if there is one underlining trait that could potentially derail Bryce's career, it's much more nebulous: his ability to recognize when a play is dead. The proclivity for turnovers that has haunted Bryce through his career doesn't always have the same underlying reasons as most typical young quarterbacks: adjusting to the speed of play, the tightness of NFL throwing windows, being able to diagnose much more advanced coverages, understanding the playbook, etc. One consistent thread is a defining trait that is both a curse and a strength: his ability to make plays off script, which has carried over from his Alabama days. For every miracle escape and razor-margin throw downfield like the 4th down play vs the Dolphins, you seem to have an inexcusable dropped fumble without even being touched (also see Dolphins game.) And the genesis of both is his underlying aggressiveness to make something happen with every snap, sometimes even when the play itself is simply unsalvageable. What often gets Young into trouble isn't an inability to execute a play, but his unwillingness to concede that the risk/reward ratio for a given decision simply isn't worth the attempt. There are few things that will drive a coach to putting a schematic leash on a player more quickly then when that player's outcomes become unpredictable, and even multiple miracle plays can be negated by a single colossal mistake. Where Bryce must find a balance is retaining the ability to conjure magic when needed, but to also keep his risk/reward instincts fully calibrated to what the team as a whole is comfortable with. No successful coach is entirely risk-averse, and many tend to be overly conservative in situations that decides the outcome of games, but "bad" Bryce sometimes emerges in situations where the only correct decision is to simply eat the ball and move on to the next play or next drive. If he can develop a better understanding of this flaw and work to overcome it without abandoning the traits that also make him special, he will take one step closer to becoming the player this franchise sacrificed so much for and redeeming that faith with the entire fanbase.
    • Is there a fifth option for welded shut and hermetically sealed?
×
×
  • Create New...