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His name was Kimbo

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nctarheel0619 Newbie

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5 minutes ago, Dick the Butcher said:

Seems kinda young to have a heart attack.  I'm not a doctor, though.  I'm interested to hear the real COD, i.e., what led to the heart attack and how can we prevent them from occurring in guys at such a young age. 

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Probably the roids, and the fact he smoked and he also drank alcohol constantly.  

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1 minute ago, nctarheel0619 said:

Probably the roids, and the fact he smoked and he also drank alcohol constantly.  

Oh, well no sympathy then; he ended with an exact result of his actions.  I have personal history with heart defects, and so I get serious.  Probably not the best forum for that . . . 

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13 minutes ago, Dick the Butcher said:

Seems kinda young to have a heart attack.  I'm not a doctor, though.  I'm interested to hear the real COD, i.e., what led to the heart attack and how can we prevent them from occurring in guys at such a young age. 

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The guy was the doorman for inthevip, did hella roids, and worlds of blow.

 

its a miracle he lasted this long.

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2 minutes ago, Promethean Forerunner said:

Not really.

Kimbo brought a lot of fans to MMA. Don't act as if MMA had such a clean image at first. There were freakshows at that time.

Disagree, 100 percent.  During that time was when MMA was peaking with excellent fighters such as Anderson Silva, BJ Penn, Rashad Evans, and Jon Bones Jones was coming into his own.  Even the Heavyweight division was entertaining (it is not now).  People actually wanted to watch UFC events, bars were packed constantly.  Now, you can walk in and see the main event at a BWW, or Hooters for instance at around 1130-12 and get a decent seat.    

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Just now, Promethean Forerunner said:

Disagree all you want but it's the truth. Kimbo's street fights got more people to watch MMA. If hardcore fans on SB Nation, MMA Fighting, Sherdog, etc can admit it then it's legitimate to credit Kimbo for a portion of the sport's mainstream success.

Entertaining? The HW division was a joke before Velasquez and Dos Santos came along.

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Brock was a big name, and so was Couture.  And na man, after the first fight people saw with Kimbo, they knew dude was trash.  Dude couldn't even win the Ultimate Fighter.  

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23 minutes ago, Promethean Forerunner said:

Not really.

Kimbo brought a lot of fans to MMA. Don't act as if MMA had such a clean image at first. There were freakshows at that time.

Image? more like the podunk ass MMA he participated in and could barely win fixed matches and lost others. No one cares about MMA's image.

I don't care if people liked Kimbo because he seemed like a guy who was trying hard and staying humble but he was a poo MMA fighter. But yea he may have brought some fans to bullshit MMA like bellator but the UFC was way more popular with Chuck Liddell, GSP, Couture, Silva, Jon Jones... ya know actual MMA talent. Matt Hughes, Wanderlei Silva, Sakuraba, Rampage, Fedor...goodness Kimbo isn't even a blip on the radar when you include PRIDE and others.

 

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3 minutes ago, Promethean Forerunner said:

Lmao, Brock was an oversized roid bully. Believe what you want. The UFC was so desperate for a cash cow at HW that they gave him a title shot so fast. I'm sorry, but a guy who's afraid to get hit doesn't deserve to be champion. Carwin should have ended his run earlier.

As for Couture, he was on his way out. I love the guy but Randy's success at his age indicated how shallow the HW division was at the time.

And yet, that Ultimate Fighter was and still is the most watched Ultimate Fighter in the show's history. Don't get butthurt. You just can't handle the fact that Ferguson played a role in getting MMA more fans.

Na, he damn sure didn't.  Hence the reason why the UFC wouldn't take him on a contract until the Ultimate Fighter.  LOLZ.  Keep trying though.  

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51 minutes ago, electro's horse said:

The guy was the doorman for inthevip, did hella roids, and worlds of blow.

 

its a miracle he lasted this long.

I don't keep up with MMA, and had no idea who he was other than I knew his name.  

Amazing that some of these athletes can compete at such a high level while simultaneously wrecking their bodies.  All that physical wear and tear comes to a head eventually.

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Just now, Promethean Forerunner said:

You must be a newbie to the sport.

Fun fact, there was a time when 'UFC' fans thought Leben was going to crush Silva and that Liddell was a much better boxer than Rampage.

The UFC still gave him a contract. That's the point. LOL

Na man, I've been a fan since the mid 2000's.  Liddell got knocked out by a Rich Franklin with one fuging arm broke.  I just don't believe Kimbo brought more fans to MMA like you think.  

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I'm with Promethean. If UFC didn't see value in signing him, Kembo wouldn't have gotten a shot. There was interest and intrigue in seeing if a burly street fighter could translate the success he showed on his youtube vids to the octagon. He had name recognition prior to his MMA career and they rolled the dice to see if that would boost viewership or bring in some new eyes. I would say it paid-off. He did little for the MMA-purests but that isn't who UFC was targeting.  I know that my ears would perk when I would hear that Kembo was booked for a fight.

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1 hour ago, Dick the Butcher said:

Seems kinda young to have a heart attack.  I'm not a doctor, though.  I'm interested to hear the real COD, i.e., what led to the heart attack and how can we prevent them from occurring in guys at such a young age. 

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Don't take steroids 

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