"Oher Steals from Panthers"

[The NFL Shield At Midfield]

there was a distant twinkle of intelligence in one of the comments though

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One of the things that people didn't understand about the tackle position in Carolina is that it's very different from that in Baltimore. You don't have to worry about Joe breaking contain and running more than once a game so the strategy is never to "keep him in the pocket." 

 

However obviously with Cam you do, so playing contain is paramount and forces DEs and LBs not to rush the QB directly and instead make sure he doesn't get the edge especially while you're in Man coverage. 

 

this is something of a good point.  i'll concede that cam's mobility probably helps our tackles out. 

i think he goes too far into "cam is michael vick" territory with it though as our quarterback does tend to hang in the pocket as a bunch of panthers fans have pointed out.  he isn't like kaepernick in the sense that he's a one/two read tops and if they're covered he's taking off QB.  this is just anecdotal/based on the inherently subjective eye test but i feel like when teams get overly concerned about setting the edge and playing contain then that's when they get burned against the panthers.  it's not like teams that have demonstrated the ability to pin their ears back and actually get to cam when he's still in the pocket haven't been successful.

[shaqattaq]

On 6/26/2016 at 7:50 AM, The NFL Shield At Midfield said:

they have james hurst who's nearly as bad

yeah, but he's still on a rookie contract for $603,000 this season. The gist of article was not how crappy Oher was (even though they did imply that), it was that we overpaid. I disagree.

[PhillyB]

1 hour ago, The NFL Shield At Midfield said:

there was a distant twinkle of intelligence in one of the comments though

this is something of a good point.  i'll concede that cam's mobility probably helps our tackles out. 

i think he goes too far into "cam is michael vick" territory with it though as our quarterback does tend to hang in the pocket as a bunch of panthers fans have pointed out.  he isn't like kaepernick in the sense that he's a one/two read tops and if they're covered he's taking off QB.  this is just anecdotal/based on the inherently subjective eye test but i feel like when teams get overly concerned about setting the edge and playing contain then that's when they get burned against the panthers.  it's not like teams that have demonstrated the ability to pin their ears back and actually get to cam when he's still in the pocket haven't been successful.

ehh for every contain-the-edge DL coach there's a crash-the-pocket DL coach who believes disruption at the line trumps damage control. they probably cancel each other out as a factor.

[imminent rogaine]

20 hours ago, KillerKat said:

When you have a road grading interior line which includes 2 pro bowlers, It's ok if one of your tackles is poor in run blocking. Pass blocking, especially for LT, is extremely more important. In other words, this article was obviously made by someone with very little football knowledge. Nevermind the fact his pay is around middle of the pack as far as LTs go.

Good point. I would think having Cam back there might blur the lines between pass-blocking and run-blocking a bit. I am sure this is accounted for in those grades but in an actual game when Cam keeps it, he probably doesn't care too much how Oher is blocking; in fact, he may even prefer to let the ends get deep up field so they can't tackle him when he takes off.

[The NFL Shield At Midfield]

33 minutes ago, shaqattaq said:

yeah, but he's still on a rookie contract for $603,000 this season. The gist of article was not how crappy Oher was (even though they did imply that), it was that we overpaid. I disagree.

the main thing was the "hurr thanks to the panthers we know it could be worse" bit.  it stuck out to me because their current LT is one of the absolute worst in the league and if anything the remark applies more to us looking at the ravens than vice versa. 

hurst was actually the guy who got blasted into flacco's knee too.  the whole thing just struck me as absurd.

[Mr. Scot]

12 hours ago, KillerKat said:

@Mr. Scot Your inbox is full or something cause it says you can't receive messages

Should be okay now.

[Nick_81]

ROFL... Gettleman, overpaying.  That was a good one.

[shaqattaq]

3 hours ago, The NFL Shield At Midfield said:

the main thing was the "hurr thanks to the panthers we know it could be worse" bit.  it stuck out to me because their current LT is one of the absolute worst in the league and if anything the remark applies more to us looking at the ravens than vice versa. 

hurst was actually the guy who got blasted into flacco's knee too.  the whole thing just struck me as absurd.

you'll get no argument from me as to the absurdness of the article. I can't wait to see Hurst's contract next year (although i doubt I remember this thread). All I know is that we had one of the best offenses in the league and Oher  protected the MVP's blind side (i swear no pun intended). that's enough for me.

[cbully]

ok... so would rather have bell for half of that? I think not