It's Time To Acknowledge The Elephant In The Room

[Kakarot]

There's a small circle of us in here who have been acknowledged it.

Oh, and yes, our run d is atrocious.

[Kakarot]

23 minutes ago, SportsCrazie4172 said:

I definitely pulled the race card on twitter and got some wackos telling me I'm just overreacting.."he was hit by a black line backer".Whhaaatt??

That's not what I'm saying here..I'm saying If White Tom Brady or White Drew Brees had gotten hit like that, flags would have been thrown..I have seen countless times Tom will get hit and complain to the ref and a flag thrown..

Now Cam goes into the presser tells the NFL last night, the refs weren't doing it intentional and he loved the officiating job..Guess what, he aint about to get sh*t called for him now..he himself put a bigger target on his back..

I said it last night but I dont like this saying all the right things Cam..I need the man who didn't give a sh*t and called it for what it was..

Mike and Mike on TV this morning blaming the Panthers organization for not putting Cam in concussion protocol instead of talking about the real story and why Cam isn't getting the calls Brady/Manning/Brees would have gotten last season..

 

 

 

 

This This This! Cam can't say what he's saying, and then have Greg Olsen in the other room trying to look out for him, saying he doesn't get the calls. Comfortable people will disregard what Olsen is saying, because Cam is saying everything's fine. Just like with the situation last week.

[ok2h8pep]

One need look no further than Big Ben to see the "white Cam Newton" in terms of what the Ref's will allow.  Ben routinely gets mauled too without a call.  

It's not defensible but I think the refs allow this stuff to happen when the QB's are bigger than the linebackers and DE's.

The OP is correct in that Brady, Rogers, Bree's etc... would get those calls 99% of the time but his allusion to it being because of race just doesn't pass the smell test.

I'd have to spend some time looking at all of games played by (for instance) Russell Wilson' or RG3 to see if they get those calls too - I expect that they do because of their relatively small stature.

I think Cam said it best himself - no one has ever seen what he brings to the field before and they are not sure how to handle it.

The pity is that I believe his career is going to be shortened because the NFL seems to support ref crews that allow other teams to T off on him.  Again, look at Big Ben - he's been playing hurt for what seems like the last 7 years.  Those hits add up.

So yeah, it sucks that effeminate Tom Brady gets to play until he's 40 while Cam will probably be in traction by the time he hits' 35. 

 

[d-dave]

So something interesting, on NFL.com there was NOTHING about the head shots given to Cam, they were only buried in a couple of articles.

Yeah, the NFL doesn't care about Cam.  He just needs to dance, score, and then enjoy the punishment of opponents.

[jamiepruitt]

We need to get Wikileaks involved to see emails between RG and the refs. 

[Zaximus]

It looks like there are finally more posters seeing the light after this game.  I remember after the SB there was a handful of us where this was obvious and rest were calling us crazy, but the evidence is staggering since Goodell took over of "pushing" games to where they want them and bad ref calls.    The NFL does not want Cam to be the face of their league and will push games using their refs.

Cam's comments sound like a guy that has given up and is beat, and I don't mean from the game, but from the NFL.  He sounds like someone that was just "taught a lesson" by the league and finally just fell in line with those comments. 

[RickyManningJr]

7 hours ago, Proudiddy said:

The NFL didn't want Cam as the face of their league.  I'll let you figure out why for yourself, but it's fairly obvious. 

 

Seriously...  Ask yourself...  If that was Tom Brady, Rodgers, Brees, or Manning, how many of those helmet to helmet hits would've went uncalled?  Hell, anyone remember Greg Hardy's personal foul for hitting Carson Palmer too hard from behind in the back/torso?

What other MVP has gotten this kind of treatment?  How many times have you seen Brady jump up after getting lightly pushed down after releasing the ball, whine to the ref, and have that same ref start making that call later in the game?  Look at the ref's body language towards Cam when he complains.  They don't care.  They don't treat him like an MVP.  What league doesn't protect the face of their league?  Their MVP?  One of their most transcendent talents?  One of their most marketable players?

Now think back further...  When have you ever seen a player forced to hold a presser after a game, inside of the stadium, within ear shot of some cocky asshole they just lost to, talking poo as loud as they can to the point it drowns out said player's presser?  SERIOUSLY, when have you ever seen that?  I know when.  NEVER.  Because it didn't happen until Cam.  He is purposely being put in these positions.

The NFL is putting him in these positions 1) to frustrate him and hopefully, generate a juicy reaction and storyline, 2) because they don't care about him, and 3) if he happened to get injured as a result of what they're allowing to go on, it would satisfy a large, bigoted segment of their customer base, including many in their very ranks.  Cam is young, black, gifted, more physically imposing than any player before or after at the QB position, and he pisses them off that he just keeps scoring, winning, and dancing.  They want him "humbled."  He's not the face they wanted.  They don't care about Cam.  They are using him and couldn't care less about what happens to him or with him in the process.

Even if you don't agree on the race issue, just really take in all that has happened with him and to him since his time in the league and really weigh whether the league has protected him in anyway - public relations-wise, on-field, off-field, etc.  Compare him to his peers and think about whether they are held to a different standard and whether they are protected by the league.  

For even further consideration, even look back to flashy guys like Deion...  Do you recall concerned mothers writing local papers to tell them how offended, hurt, disgusted, and traumatized she was by Deion's dancing after TDs, only to then have it plastered all over national news where pundits pontificate on how she has a good point and how he's showing up his opponents?

Remember the Tommy Kelly/Raiders incident where Cam finally kicked at Kelly after repeated late and dirty hits that went uncalled?  Yet, Cam was called for fighting back.

What has Cam loved to do when his defensive or ST teammates make a big play?  Run on the field once the play is over to congratulate them.  What has the NFL now made an emphasis in officiating?  Penalizing players for running onto the field (for the sake of fairness, some other incidents have contributed to this rule being emphasized as well, but still...).  Regardless of the impetus for the new re-emphasis of the rule, who else have you seen penalized for it this preseason?  LOL...

And again, we come back to the way he was critiqued and treated leading up to the Superbowl and after.  He was set up by the league to answer questions about the biggest loss of his career while sitting directly across from an opponent he just lost to, bragging loudly about how he shut him down.  Then Cam is villainized for getting up and walking away instead of being humiliated any further.  

Remember the NFL Awards ceremony?  Remember how all the other awards were extended presentations, and then it got to Cam and they couldn't get it over with fast enough.

Now all of this brings us to tonight...  What other QBs in the league take those shots to the head without penalties being called?  How many other MVPs have you ever seen take those hits without penalties being called?  How many other leagues would sit around on their hands and not immediately try to remedy the situation, or at the very least, address it for the sake of transparency?  Instead, these assholes completely ignore all of the illegal hits, all of the game-changing, horrible officiating, and instead tweet out a picture of Von Miller with some generic caption like, "victory."

This is like some sort of crazy cosmic joke.  We are blessed with a once-in-a-lifetime talent.  One whom turns our franchise completely around and wins the MVP award...  There are franchises who never have, and never will have an MVP.  We have him.  And he gets treated like a red-headed stepchild by the very league that profits exponentially off of him and his image.

/vent

Has it ever crossed your mind that Cam is 250 pound beast and guys have to lay some wood to tackle him. The Panthers literally snap him the ball and run power plays with Cam as the halfback. I think you are dead wrong and your wild opinion is unprofessional.  

[Kevin Greene]

This is how Denver plays every game in the mile high. The ish that goes on their is ridiculous.

How about the shot to KBJ's knees?

SOP

[Carl Spackler]

2 minutes ago, RickyManningJr said:

Has it ever crossed your mind that Cam is 250 pound beast and guys have to lay some wood to tackle him. The Panthers literally snap him the ball and run power plays with Cam as the halfback. I think you are dead wrong and your wild opinion is unprofessional.  

So what you're saying is there should be a separate set of rules for players who are bigger and that if someone has to concuss a bigger QB, well, that's fine

[ctrcat]

2 minutes ago, RickyManningJr said:

Has it ever crossed your mind that Cam is 250 pound beast and guys have to lay some wood to tackle him. The Panthers literally snap him the ball and run power plays with Cam as the halfback. I think you are dead wrong and your wild opinion is unprofessional.  

It's not wrong.  Our own coach said everyone was upset we crashed the party last year.  WE suffered through 2-14 and Jimmy Clausen, EVERYONE calling him a bust (among thousands of other less than pleasant things) before he took a snap, etc.. We deserve it and they're doing everything to take it from us.  Obviously this season and Cam's career isn't over, but JR MUST do something.

[RickyManningJr]

4 minutes ago, Carl Spackler said:

So what you're saying is there should be a separate set of rules for players who are bigger and that if someone has to concuss a bigger QB, well, that's fine

The only clear shot to the head was flagged. I am not going to argue with people like you. Waste of time.

[Proudiddy]

Just now, RickyManningJr said:

The only clear shot to the head was flagged. I am not going to argue with people like you. Waste of time.

conveniently when they could call it on the same play they could call a penalty on the offense so they offset.  I guess that was just coincidence, considering they missed the first 4 or 5 blatant attempts to decapitate our QB.

[Spaceballs83]

1 minute ago, RickyManningJr said:

The only clear shot to the head was flagged. I am not going to argue with people like you. Waste of time.

And a lot of news outlets think otherwise. Maybe you need to get your head examined.

[4Corners]

Thought this thread was gonna be about how bad bradberry  played