Didn't want to come here today... but did... Didn't see it on the front page... but Shula...

[Jangler]

tldr....

Ha! I was thinking the same. It almost looked like we were afraid to throw the ball! wtf!! classic Panthers...run, run, run punt.  Sad.

[top dawg]

Shula can come up with some masterful play calls, especially when things are going to his script.

When the going gets tough, Shula gets his ass kicked...repeatedly.  

He has the talent, he just has to figure out how to adjust to the flow of the game to take advantage of players' strengths and put them into a position to succeed. 

 

 

 

[pantherclaw]

Never fails, players fail to execute, and the coach gets the blame. 

I wish I had a job where somebody else got the blame when I fail to do what my job entails.

[SportsCrazie4172]

1st down run straight up the middle..2nd down run straight up the middle..3rd down Pass..

 

rinse wash and repeat..

[shreddingdefense]

1st half was good play calling. Remmers did well and had some help by bunching wrs to one side and having cam not drop back as far. Also we mixed up the run and pass. For whatever reason in the 2nd half the running game was abandoned until it was late in the game.

[heel31ok]

5 hours ago, teeray said:

Shula hate at this point is dumb

He has been terrible for a long time so its not about this point of a season but this point of a career..

[beastson]

Without Cam, Shula wouldn't even be a OC in this league in 2016

He abandon things at the wrong time. If the run is working, he thinks he's outsmarting the defense by passing. If something is working, you continue to do it until its stopped

Cam from now on needs to get plays based off film of the defense during preparation and adjustments made on the sideline (if we actually adjust) and call most of the plays himself. Hiking the ball with 5 sec left is killing our game management and flow. It's very detrimental to the team. Let the man play at the pace he's comfortable with

[OldNorthPowell]

I have never really like Shula as a player caller but it is what it is. Hard to argue after last season that he sucks but he does seem to get outdone by defenses under the bright lights.

[tiger7_88]

3 hours ago, pantherclaw said:

Never fails, players fail to execute, and the coach gets the blame. 

I wish I had a job where somebody else got the blame when I fail to do what my job entails.

The players executed well in the 1st half.

Then guess what happened?  The Denver defense ADJUSTED.  They started blitzing like crazy.

What was Shula's response to that?  Draw plays?  Screens?  Slants?

Nope.

Everything downfield brother.  Sit in the pocket Cam (or run for your life) because EVERYTHING must be thrown downfield.

[Thanatos]

Shula cannot adjust very well. It's his Achilles Heel. And despite that, we still should have won that game. We are a better team than Denver this year, and we were a better team last year.

[Davis83]

What pisses me off is we run on 1st down (like every other team) and can gain 4-6 yds.  The we go right into a pass which really opens you up for losing yards against this D.  If you can run for 4-6 yds, why wouldn't you run more - then after a couple runs, you play action pass.  The best way to defeat edge rushers is to run inside of their upfield rush.  It was the same way in the SB.  We wasted the entire 3rd quarter where just 1 or 2 sustained drives would have been the difference - even if we got 0 points out of them.  2nd half was like watching SB all over again.  Shula learns nothing.

Then in the 4th when we really need something - they go back to the Cam jail break runs and we march pretty much down the field.  I trust Cam to protect himself more in the run than in the pass.

[Bronn]

1 minute ago, Davis83 said:

Then in the 4th when we really need something - they go back to the Cam jail break runs and we march pretty much down the field.  I trust Cam to protect himself more in the run than in the pass.

Right now, this...

I would much rather him take off and run than sit in the pocket while it collapses and then try to escape from whatever junk is around him.

So much is made about how Cam is progressing as a passer, but IMHO both he and the Panthers need to take a step back and not push it as an issue. He is still good with his feet, and it keeps defenses more honest.

TBQH, teams like the Seahawks and the Broncos are going to just keep killing us in the blitz game if we keep this up. They'll adjust to the fact that we're trying to force the pass more and keep an extra blitzer or two in the box, and not just a guy spying.

It is so blatantly obvious, especially when we play blitzing teams like Denver, that we're trying too hard. That's why, especially last year, you see us being able to no-huddle drive the poo out of teams in certain situations, and I really believe it is because Cam is controlling the majority of the calls, and Shula doesn't have a hand in it.

Think about how many times we've had to call timeouts because plays don't get into the huddle in time. That adds stress, and doesn't allow Cam time to survey at the line. In the no-huddle, it keeps defenders on the field, forces the defense to adjust, and gives us more time to survey/audible towards more favorable matchups.

[panthers55]

7 hours ago, Hogmolliesmaht said:

Correct me if I'm wrong but doesn't Cam have the option to change the plays when he doesn't like the defense he sees?

Cmon now. If the play works it is because Cam audibles out of a stupid Shula play. If it fails it is because Shula called a stupid play. Stop trying to use logic and consistency here. It is always the same people making these threads and trying to criticize Shula whenever they can. LOL.

[top dawg]

I don't think people are going out of their way to criticize Shula. Life would be grand if Shula wasn't an issue.

I guess that every time the going gets rough, that it's the players' fault en masse.  Everyone is failing to execute. That's just more sensible.