Did Delaire Just Take A Shot At Cam?

[panthers55]

People wanting a violent solution will never be happy with a man who speaks unity and a reasoned approach. If we don't learn from history we will relive it and that is starting to happen. If the black community doesn't try to find a peaceful solution this will get out of control like it did 50 years ago when the national guard was called in. What happened when the military gets called in. Google Kent State massacre and let's talk

[fieryprophet]

When I was growing up my brother's best friend was a black kid who loved anime, playing tennis, and Legend of Zelda. The kind of names he was called by other black kids and even his own family absolutely staggered the mind, just because he didn't conform to a specific idea of what "black" was and because his best friend was a white boy descended from rednecks. Why do people (and I mean people of every race) have to be so deadset on making everyone fit their own preconceived notions? Why does Cam have to be exactly what everyone else wants him to be?

[Proudiddy]

I definitely dont think it should be a Cam vs Kap issue.  I support Kap's stance and agree with him on the issues that are being swept under the proverbial rug.  I also support Cam and believe his handling of the issues through his foundation and community-involvement are amazing efforts towards foxing the issues we face while bridging the gap.

It pisses me off when i see people bash Cam for not saying more...  last i checked, actuons speak louder than words and he has done countless, THANKLESS outreach events as well as raising money for different causes.  He doesnt get enough credit for that.

That being said, without hearing or seeing the presser, which I think is responsible for the reasons some are disappointed or angry with Cam, I thought the juxtaposition of Delaire's "understanding" versus "being in an environment you have no control over," was referring to Cam's IG post which basically said he understood and respected Kap's position but everyone handles it differently.   Then saying "proud of someone who stands up for what they believe in," seems to be a shot at Cam as a lot of the people criticizing him are saying they feel he tip-toed around it because he has more to lose.  I thought Cam using himself as an example in alluding to never wanting his kids to have to grow up without a father was pretty clear in addressing the issues, but as I said, I have a lot of friends on social media who are bashing him now.

[Moorgan]

5 minutes ago, panthers55 said:

People wanting a violent solution will never be happy with a man who speaks unity and a reasoned approach. If we don't learn from history we will relive it and that is starting to happen. If the black community doesn't try to find a peaceful solution this will get out of control like it did 50 years ago when the national guard was called in. What happened when the military gets called in. Google Kent State massacre and let's talk

I think the initial onus to extend an olive branch starts with the powerful and not the powerless. So while the black community has work to do on a lot of fronts, the system and those who are it's agents (cops, politicians, etc) have to humble themselves and show change and acknowledge the depth and complexity of the issues.

[Proudiddy]

1 minute ago, Moorgan said:

I think the initial onus to extend an olive branch starts with the powerful and not the powerless. So while the black community has work to do on a lot of fronts, the system and those who are it's agents (cops, politicians, etc) have to humble themselves and show change and acknowledge the depth and complexity of the issues.

This 100%.  Those in power have to acknowledge wrongdoings.  Just like we as fans want Cam to have equal protection in games - in life, the black community has been asking for equal rights and protection for years and still, disproportionately are refused due process and justice.  Those changes have to start with those in power being accountable.  Jmo...

[arbnranger]

3 minutes ago, Proudiddy said:

  Then saying "proud of someone who stands up for what they believe in," seems to be a shot at Cam 

I see where you're coming from but I just see that comment as support for Kap not a dig at Cam. 

[Proudiddy]

Just now, arbnranger said:

I see where you're coming from but I just see that comment as support for Kap not a dig at Cam. 

It may just be a result of seeing that post after being inundated qith other social media posts accusing Cam of not taking a hard enough stance.  But, i dont think its just my perception of things...  why post that today?  Why not when Kap started his protest?  Why not Sunday night after the game?  Why not acknowledge Cam's addressing of the issues with a pic of Cam with the same caption?  I think it was a subtle dig.

[CPF4LIFE]

9 minutes ago, fieryprophet said:

When I was growing up my brother's best friend was a black kid who loved anime, playing tennis, and Legend of Zelda. The kind of names he was called by other black kids and even his own family absolutely staggered the mind, just because he didn't conform to a specific idea of what "black" was and because his best friend was a white boy descended from rednecks. Why do people (and I mean people of every race) have to be so deadset on making everyone fit their own preconceived notions? Why does Cam have to be exactly what everyone else wants him to be?

I can relate to that kid, it was similar for me growing up. A black kid in to things my black peers werent. I was scrutinized for it too.

[Growl]

8 minutes ago, Proudiddy said:

I definitely dont think it should be a Cam vs Kap issue.  I support Kap's stance and agree with him on the issues that are being swept under the proverbial rug.  I also support Cam and believe his handling of the issues through his foundation and community-involvement are amazing efforts towards foxing the issues we face while bridging the gap.

It pisses me off when i see people bash Cam for not saying more...  last i checked, actuons speak louder than words and he has done countless, THANKLESS outreach events as well as raising money for different causes.  He doesnt get enough credit for that.

That being said, without hearing or seeing the presser, which I think is responsible for the reasons some are disappointed or angry with Cam, I thought the juxtaposition of Delaire's "understanding" versus "being in an environment you have no control over," was referring to Cam's IG post which basically said he understood and respected Kap's position but everyone handles it differently.   Then saying "proud of someone who stands up for what they believe in," seems to be a shot at Cam as a lot of the people criticizing him are saying they feel he tip-toed around it because he has more to lose.  I thought Cam using himself as an example in alluding to never wanting his kids to have to grow up without a father was pretty clear in addressing the issues, but as I said, I have a lot of friends on social media who are bashing him now.

This has become nothing more than a sporting event, with people hedging in on their sides. Once an issue reaches that point, people don't care about legitimate, beneficial work like the stuff Cam Newton has done. They just want to see the other side with egg on their face and their own stances validated.

 

No expert but I'd bet folding money if you monitored brain activity the same part of the brain that lights up when you want to see Cam crush the Falcons is what's lighting up in people's brains when any scenario becomes what this has.

 

 

[truthjuice]

I support both Kaep and Cam because they have the same goal, different routes. I think what Cam said yesterday wasn't that bad and I also think he made it clear where he stands in terms of justice and being tired of being tired with these things happening. I stand with both. 

[Proudiddy]

1 minute ago, truthjuice said:

I support both Kaep and Cam because they have the same goal, different routes. I think what Cam said yesterday wasn't that bad and I also think he made it clear where he stands in terms of justice and being tired of being tired with these things happening. I stand with both. 

Same here and that's why i brought this thread up for discussion...  the timing of delaire's post is extremely suspect, imo.

[Ricky Spanish]

No he did not, you're reading into things too much. 

[arbnranger]

10 minutes ago, Proudiddy said:

It may just be a result of seeing that post after being inundated qith other social media posts accusing Cam of not taking a hard enough stance.  But, i dont think its just my perception of things...  why post that today?  Why not when Kap started his protest?  Why not Sunday night after the game?  Why not acknowledge Cam's addressing of the issues with a pic of Cam with the same caption?  I think it was a subtle dig.

Could be, good points. We may never know but still interesting.  I don't have any social media other than the Huddle so I do miss a lot of the other stuff...and it's intentional and I'm happy about it. Ha

[truthjuice]

3 minutes ago, Proudiddy said:

Same here and that's why i brought this thread up for discussion...  the timing of delaire's post is extremely suspect, imo.

The timing is bad, but I just can't imagine Ryan doing this. Not when he has access to Cam and can talk to Cam like a man. I think they (the team) should be having a conversation with each other, hearing both sides out. I have also realized lately that the ALM crowd aren't all sellouts. Most of them, all they want is peace. That's mainly it and I think that's why I can fully support both movements. But no, I don't think Ryan is taking a shot because the question can be asked to him: what have YOU done lately? Or why aren't YOU speaking out? Im sure he didn't protest or anything, so he has to shut it if he is taking shots. 

Richard Sherman said yesterday that players stances are being ignored and he's right. I feel bad as a black woman. Even though I'm down with the BLM movement, I have to respect others opinions and their positions and take away from it the good.