4 Million Dollars Per Year

[beastson]

8 minutes ago, osd22 said:

Jno got burned by Julio last year. 

Julio had 5 catches for 80 yards against Norman in the 2nd game last year

Stop spewing false facts. Its only a few of those on here that are saying this and it needs to stop

[Kevin Greene]

8 minutes ago, cptx said:

Let's not let that stop the circlejerk

No shyt, Julio went off for 178 yards in Atlanta last year. Ryan's passer rating was a buck twenty.

[L-TownCat]

33 minutes ago, cgarsmoker said:

An "I told you so" thread from a freaking moderator?  Good grief....Igo needs a minimum age limit older than 12 to be a mod in this joint.  

It's his usual, pay it no mind.

[Proudiddy]

26 minutes ago, Kevin Greene said:

Gettleman will be here this year, next year and the year after that.

Need a new team Op?

I was "here" before Gettleman, and I'll be "here" after.  Again, I don't have an issue with Gettleman.  I have praised him for his great moves, but I'm not going to bite my tongue when I know he's fuged something up.  Might seem excessive, but I have to turn it up a notch to get the message across to people who refuse to believe he's capable of mistakes.  My issue isn't with Gettleman.  My issue is with how he handled things and how it negatively affected our team.

[Cpt slay a ho]

point blank we could have kept norman under the tag, which would have gave us a lot of flexibility come draft day.

 

it was a bad move, just like releasing smith, just like not finding a replacement for gross.......what makes these bad moves is we had ZERO backup plan to replace these players besides rolling the dice in the draft ....gotta do better 

[YourMomsLover]

1 hour ago, cgarsmoker said:

An "I told you so" thread from a freaking moderator?  Good grief....Igo needs a minimum age limit older than 12 to be a mod in this joint.  

He can't serve crow to dumbfugs because of his mod status? That's stupid thinking. He's completely right. 

 

 

[Zaximus]

Coverage sacks. That was last year. The line wasn't anything amazing last year but Norman helped tremendously with coverage sacks. I said this when we lost Norman and I hate it came true. Not to mention our safeties are showing their true colors because they have to help so much on both sides instead of trusting Norman to shut his side down. It's all relative. Also his energy.


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[Proudiddy]

29 minutes ago, YourMomsLover said:

He can't serve crow to dumbfugs because of his mod status? That's stupid thinking. He's completely right. 

 

 

LOL, these dudes would love a Stalin-esque society where I'd be shot in the street for questioning gettleman.  It's ridiculous.  

The "and he's a mod herp deruuuup" card is always a favorite.  Oh well, can't help their butthurt.

[Proudiddy]

4 minutes ago, Zaximus said:

Coverage sacks. That was last year. The line wasn't anything amazing last year but Norman helped tremendously with coverage sacks. I said this when we lost Norman and I hate it came true. Not to mention our safeties are showing their true colors because they have to help so much on both sides instead of trusting Norman to shut his side down. It's all relative. Also his energy.


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Man, I have pretty much expressed those exact thoughts since the move went down.  Every aspect of it...  When I said the "fit" was perfect for us and Josh, I didn't just mean skillset.  I meant in terms of presence and energy as well, like you pointed out.  Sometimes, you need some flat out dogs.  And Josh is that guy.  And in terms of skillset, I made that same point earlier in the thread about coverage sacks.  People keep talking about the pass rush, but it's the old chicken or the egg argument.  When Josh was here, the opposing QB would often get sacked after being in the pocket for just as long as Ryan was today...  the difference was, they never had anyone come open to throw to.  And I'm not saying Josh was solely and entirely responsible for that, but when you know one guy is going to lock his side of the field down, you can help in other areas where players won't.  Now, we don't have anyone that we can depend on to handle their side of the field and it has our entire secondary scrambling around lost.

[Cpt slay a ho]

Bad part is knowing what result will come from moves like this but you have to convince yourself SOMEHOW that we can still be a competitive. trying to spin it as if the moves were for the betterment of the team when deep down you don't know wtf your gm is thinking or doing....

[brandon_87]

2 hours ago, Proudiddy said:

The difference in what we reportedly offered and what Josh ended up getting paid.  A lot of ya'll get pissed off at me for my "I told you so"'s, but for as much poo as I took during the whole Norman debacle, I got to give it back.  So, here it is...  I TOLD YOU.  The system didn't make Josh.  He was worth the money, and I said we would regret it.  I said Gettleman far too often appeared to get caught up in emotions and personal ego battles, and that in Josh's case, that appeared to rear its ugly head again.  

I was lambasted for not toeing the company line and not blindly accepting every single move Gettleman made as the right one.  Now you see why I don't?  Just because they are professionals doesn't make them perfect or infallible.  Those same people who were mad at me for angrily speaking out about how the situation was handled were the same ones who hung onto and swore by Gettleman's every word.  He said he doesn't panic.  He said he doesn't draft for need.  

BUT, He was anxious about KK leaving so he drafted ANOTHER FIRST ROUND DT, then he knew we had nothing behind Norman so he drafted Bradberry and then proceeded to waste three more picks (one included in a trade for Worley) on a couple of bums at CB in a desperate effort to replace Norman, one of which didn't even make the team and the other shouldn't be on the team.  That's four picks used to compensate for the loss of Norman and only one of them looks like a viable NFL prospect (Bradberry).  Oh, and if you didn't catch that, he wasn't exactly honest in his statements of not drafting for need or not panicking.  But hey, at least he got to swang some dick around in the media about what a badass he is.

Sounds like we have a regular damn Scarface on our hands here...

So here we are company yes men...  The boss isn't always right.  Now all we can do is sit back and enjoy the shitshow.  I don't remember ever seeing our secondary ever look so bad in the history of our franchise.  It's embarrassing.  So, in summary...  We are sitting here today, following a 15-1 season, an NFC Championship, a Superbowl run, at 1-3, with our FRANCHISE QB injured after getting the poo beat out of him for 4 weeks, KK Short unsigned, those "resources" we saved by not signing Josh to what he deserved still unallocated in any meaningful way, and a secondary that likely would be cut from arena league teams.

If you were set on keeping that money, you should've at least invested it in protecting our QB, shoring up the secondary with actual NFL-level talent, or any other number of things that weren't the lateral moves that you made in their stead.

FOUR MILLION DOLLARS.  Gettleman...

Our front 7 made josh, and that's the truth. We aren't getting the pressure we used to get and because of that, the secondary is getting exposed bad. In games where we didn't get pressure, Norman got burned too. That's just the facts.

[The_Rainmaker]

1 minute ago, brandon_87 said:

Our front 7 made josh, and that's the truth. We aren't getting the pressure we used to get and because of that, the secondary is getting exposed bad. In games where we didn't get pressure, Norman got burned too. That's just the facts.

Every CB gets burned but you shoud check out the opposing #WRs stat sheet when they faced Norman supermajoirty of the time it was low. 

[Proudiddy]

9 minutes ago, brandon_87 said:

Our front 7 made josh, and that's the truth. We aren't getting the pressure we used to get and because of that, the secondary is getting exposed bad. In games where we didn't get pressure, Norman got burned too. That's just the facts.

LOL, if telling yourself that makes you feel better have at it...  but, it's not true.

Did you see that release Julio got on our DBs today?  Unless McDermott can invent a real life nano blitz that sacks the opposing QB in .00001 seconds, no amount of pressure was gonna stop Ryan from lobbing those balls up over the top and praying for the best.  There were too many plays to count where the DBs may have not even been standing on the field...  they got burned on the press and when they weren't pressing they were backed off 15 yards from the LOS getting toasted on ins, out routes, and slants.

[panthers55]

Not only did we let Norman walk but we didn't replace him with some veteran players and went with rookies. I told everyone that both moves would bite us in the butt and like usual I was right on both counts.