For the Panthers now, and Cam's future, Shula has to go

[tiger7_88]

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[MV%doe]

Here's how I believe Shula is currently.

He's calling play-action pass on the first three plays of game..............

He's doing lots of misdirection, but the threat isn't there.

Way over thinking and being far too cute.

[Malt Liquor]

Maybe Mike Shula will get into a fist fight at the stadium and Jerry Richardson will have no other choice but to fire him.

[Toolbox]

42 minutes ago, MV%doe said:

Here's how I believe Shula is currently.

He's calling play-action pass on the first three plays of game..............

He's doing lots of misdirection, but the threat isn't there.

Way over thinking and being far too cute.

He only called 3 outside sweep runs and they all got big gains.. what does he do?? he stops calling outside runs and just goes all in on up the gut run plays that did jack poo on the last drive.. so yeah daddy's boy needs to GTFO.

[UpstatePanther]

8 hours ago, Snake said:

You leave out one thing. Cam likes to run and blame can't be left off him. We do need a better OC, a OC that will tell Cam he needs to preserve his body. 

Cam may like to run, but he never does anymore except on designed plays. He never improvises anymore. In other words, he's too scared to do what made him great. And that's all on Shula's infuriating playcalling. 

[Nate Dogg]

 @electro's horse Wow. This just may be the greatest post I have ever seen in this joint. The whole thing was beautiful music to my ears. It is time for Shula to go. Plain and simple. I'm surprised at the lack of activity in this thread.

[Munkey]

8 hours ago, Mr. Scot said:

I don't see Rivera dumping Shula, even if he should.

I don't see Gettleman stepping in and forcing Rivera to fire a coach, even if he should.

Rivera's never been good at personnel evaluation with players or with coaches. I'm not confident he sees where the problems are.

I honestly see Rivera being too much of a pussy to fire Shula. However, it's easy to put a lot of blame on Shula at this point and it'd make him look better for doing such a thing, but Ron just seems like he'd rather to try to right the ship while it's half way under water, instead of just tossing over the anchor to offload some weight so the boat can rise again.

[Kevin Greene]

Well said Fiz.

Thank you for taking the time to illustrate the thoughts I was too lazy to go into detail on.

 

[PrimeTimeHeel]

Guys, 

Who would be the top OC to get or go after assuming Shula gets canned?

[panthers55]

9 hours ago, Mr. Scot said:

The approach has worked. No doubt about that.

But it's a valid question to ask how long you can keep that going.

Despite the Superman label, Newton isn't invincible. If he wants to have longevity in the league, he's going to have to change his style.

And if the coaches aren't trying to get him to do that, then who will?

So those close to Cam telling him to preserve his body and not take so many hits, arent including the coaches?  I thought I heard Rivera publically say on multiple occasions that he thinks that Cam is taking too many hits. It seems as teh season has progressed he is running less.  Do you think that is him or a focus from the coaches?

Lets be real here, we had this debate in 2014 and again in 2015.  I think the general consensus was as he ages he is going to have change from running to being more of a pocket passer.

A large part of the hits he takes is from holding the ball which is largely his fault.  Unlike Anderson who throws to spots and quickly decides what to do, Cam has always thrown to receivers and waited for them to get open rather than throwing them open or throwing to spots.  So he has to wait for them to get open, see them open, and then try and whip the ball in quickly before the defense closes.   That always take a lot more time than a quarterback who throws the ball before a receiver makes his break or dumps it off right away rather than doing it as he is getting hammered. 

[truthjuice]

17 minutes ago, PrimeTimeHeel said:

Guys, 

Who would be the top OC to get or go after assuming Shula gets canned?

Shula isn't getting canned unless Gettleman/Richardson fires him because Ron is content with the poo he's calling. 

[Kevin Greene]

7 minutes ago, PrimeTimeHeel said:

Guys, 

Who would be the top OC to get or go after assuming Shula gets canned?

As EH mentioned in his post. Ricky Proehl could take over. 

Proehl had some interesting OCs during his playing career including Mike Martz (the Greatest Show on Turf) and a brief stint with Tom Moore in Indy  when Peyton was in his prime. Oh, and don't forget about the great Dan Henning. 

[PrimeTimeHeel]

24 minutes ago, Kevin Greene said:

As EH mentioned in his post. Ricky Proehl could take over. 

Proehl had some interesting OCs during his playing career including Mike Martz (the Greatest Show on Turf) and a brief stint with Tom Moore in Indy  when Peyton was in his prime. Oh, and don't forget about the great Dan Henning. 

 

I don't mean as a stop gap til the season ends. 

I am mean, who is the best possible option to hire either during the season or after. 

That def is not Proehl. 

[PrimeTimeHeel]

Unless he lights it up after getting the interim promotion the rest of the season.