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Lesser knowns that may go higher than expected...


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4 hours ago, GamecockSmitty4 said:

I watched a good bit of Daeshon Hall and don't think he's going to ever be anything. Always hoping he would step up and make a play but he never would.

He just seems to have so many boxes checked.  I thought he looks really fluid and has a good feel for the game from what I've seen.  The sack stats this past season can cause some to turn away but I feel he's close to really leaping forward.  I'd be thinking the comp pick with him.  

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3 hours ago, top dawg said:

I would argue that Budda is known the league over. I think he'll likely go in the second.

The same nay be true Maye.

Yeah, he is more well known but I really wanted to discuss the kid somewhere and might as well be in here haha. 

Ross and Baker were the major sparks for the Washington program.  

 

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1 minute ago, catnip said:

I'm not a big UNC fan, but as a UFA, how about RB Hood and WR Switzer. Hood is a bruiser rb at 232lbs

and Switzer is a fast Wr how can return kicks. They  may not get drafted and would be good to bring in.

 

 

Switzer ran a 4.51 40 yard dash.  To only be 5'8" 181lbs, you've got to be a lot faster than that.

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Names to watch for in later rounds/UDFA:

1. Donald Payne - SS - Stetson - He's my guy. I like Baker, Adams, Obi, and all the other safeties mocked and discussed for the Panthers, but this is just my sleeper pick for us later on. He's more of a small school Jabrill Peppers do-it-all type, and could shift to OLB, but I would have no problem letting him compete for SS duties day one. I really think he's going to start for a while in the NFL.

2. Money Hunter - DB - Arkansas St. - Yes, he has an awesome name. He's a really good FS prospect. Lesser known, but has all the skills you look for in coverage and tackling.

3. Jon Toth - C - Kentucky - He's got some good buzz going on, so he's already probably going to go in the 5th rd. or so, but I think he'll be a starter at G in the NFL. Some team could agree and take him as early as the 3rd.

4. Brian Hill - RB - Wyoming

5. Storm Norton - OT - Toledo

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20 minutes ago, Bronn said:

2. Money Hunter - DB - Arkansas St. - Yes, he has an awesome name. He's a really good FS prospect. Lesser known, but has all the skills you look for in coverage and tackling.

We'd lose that guy as soon as he hit free agency.

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2 hours ago, Bronn said:

Names to watch for in later rounds/UDFA:

1. Donald Payne - SS - Stetson - He's my guy. I like Baker, Adams, Obi, and all the other safeties mocked and discussed for the Panthers, but this is just my sleeper pick for us later on. He's more of a small school Jabrill Peppers do-it-all type, and could shift to OLB, but I would have no problem letting him compete for SS duties day one. I really think he's going to start for a while in the NFL.

2. Money Hunter - DB - Arkansas St. - Yes, he has an awesome name. He's a really good FS prospect. Lesser known, but has all the skills you look for in coverage and tackling.

3. Jon Toth - C - Kentucky - He's got some good buzz going on, so he's already probably going to go in the 5th rd. or so, but I think he'll be a starter at G in the NFL. Some team could agree and take him as early as the 3rd.

4. Brian Hill - RB - Wyoming

5. Storm Norton - OT - Toledo

Thanks with this--new guys I haven't looked at.  I'm liking Hill and Payne.  

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I hate to say it, but Hill's running style is very similar, at least on tape, to Fournette to me... He's just about 20 pounds or so lighter, which actually makes him look sharper and quicker in some of his cuts than Fournette.

No, I'm not saying he's going to be Fournette, but he's going to be good in the NFL. I wouldn't be surprised if he got significant playing time as a rookie.

On Money Hunter... his name is really Monshadrik. He's Torii Hunter's son.

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On 3/15/2017 at 2:02 AM, davos said:

I figured to put something together that would focus on others than simply prospects for pick 8.  

If we can point out any consistency beyond RD-1 since DG came it, it revolves around players being selected who are not on target/projected per consensus rankings.  After the first, it only gets less predictable and this happened to an extent with Funchess, Bradberry, Worley, etc.  Our 2nd through 3rd round picks under Dave prove this.  

So, in light of this half-assed observation, I want to propose some names many are not putting at the front of their minds for our 2nd (2) and 3rd (1) rounders:
 

 

Tarell Basham Ohio - 6'4 - 269 - 34 1/2 " arms - 10 1/4 hands

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This is an example of a prospect many sites are saying is a mid round pick when in reality, scouts have been giving him a hard look for a while and I can see him being coveted by a team like us.  He has the power, length, bend, and athleticism to be a 3 down 4-3 DE.  I think he's a really good prospect who can make an impact day-1 but not have to get thrust in to a full time role immediately.  For measurables junkies, he meets a majority/arguably all of the typical edge criteria.  Top SPARQ score as well.  

Also--I really don't mind NFL.com's quick takes so figured to post that as well:

STRENGTHS

 Possesses an NFL-ready build including long arms and big, strong hands. Shows flashes of explosive twitch in his attack upfield. Able to dislodge a tackle's anchor with his speed-to-power move. Has upper body power and traits to become better at softening the edge as a rusher. Plays with good short area burst to close out running backs and scrambling quarterbacks. Maintains functional motor to keep looking for tackles outside of his general area. Asked to drop into space at times and showed enough athletic ability to handle it. Roughneck who likes to take it to tackles and tight ends as edge-setter. Gives physical redirect of tight ends getting into routes.

WEAKNESSES

 Plays with tightness in his hips which restricts his bend and pad level. Straight-line attacker who will roll past his target if he doesn't gather his weight early. His pass rush attack is still basic. Leaves his hands at home rather than turning them into weapons of victory. Tries to bull his way around the edge with strong lower body rather than softening edge with his hands. Needs to develop a better plan with reliable counters to beat pro tackles. Lacks smoothness in his turn around the corner. Can still get more out of his long arms. (nfl.com)

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Another great write-up:

Quick Quote:

“…Basham has been virtually unblockable, winning with his initial quickness, bend, strong hands and a variety of pass rush moves, including a wicked spin. ” –Rob Rang

Scouting Report:

An edge pass rusher that has a lethal combination of burst, dip, and power to get into the backfield. Had an excellent week at the Senior Bowl against top competition, validating the tape that he showed against MAC competition. High mover in the draft, could emerge as one of the top pass rushers in the draft.

source: http://draftblaster.com/2017-NFL-Draft/schools/ohio/tarell-basham-de-ohio/

 

 

I just found this guy when looking for 2nd round DE possibilities. Then I searched on here to see if he had been discussed yet. Very nice find!

Not much game film on him, but he looked pretty damn good against TN and I can see some potential with this guy.

http://draftbreakdown.com/video/tarell-basham-vs-tennessee-2016/

 

 

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