RB Samaje Perine - The Next "Le'Veon Bell" Transformation And Breakout?

[nctarheel0619]

6 minutes ago, Saca312 said:

When's the last time Stewart even showed breakaway speed? Playoffs against Seattle? Even that's a stretch as Sherman dragged him down.

You don't have to have breakaway speed to be successful in this league.

 

Yeah, and Sherman isn't exactly that fast either.  That's the crazy part.  

[Saca312]

31 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Against good run defenses? 

Houston, #4 run defense - 6 carries for 31 yards

Ohio State, #19 run defense - 17 carries for 60 yards

Kansas State, #11 run defense - 3 carries for 11 yards

Auburn, #27 run defense - 17 carries for 86 yards

Oklahoma tended to go to Mixon more against the better run defenses and I don't think that was a coincidence.

Gee, they used a better future star RB in Mixon instead of Perine?

Gee, I wonder why. I'll take that average 4ypc from him especially considering his situation. No one is saying Mixon isn't better, and I'd argue all day long about how Mixon is far superior.

[Bronn]

2 minutes ago, csx said:

Give me Marshawn Lynch and forget the speed. 

Marshawn and JStew, IIRC, both ran like a 4.46. Perine ran a 4.66.

.2 seconds, again I argue, isn't that big of a deal. That's less time than it takes to blink your eyes.

I think Arian Foster ran like a 4.68 and he had some damn good years.

[Bronn]

Mixon is the complete package. Perine is a solid starting caliber power RB with good hands and excellent ball security.

Mixon is off the Panthers board. Perine is not.

The End.

[Saca312]

1 minute ago, Bronn said:

Mixon is the complete package. Perine is a solid starting caliber power RB with good hands and excellent ball security.

Mixon is off the Panthers board. Perine is not.

The End.

Honestly wish Mixon wasn't off our board. He'd be amazing in our system.

[top dawg]

26 minutes ago, Bronn said:

He doesn't have to play fast. He is a physical RB that has a low center of gravity and the ability to shed tackles because of his mass and power.

I'm not arguing that Mixon isn't the better back. I'm arguing that they are different backs, and that Perine will be successful in the NFL in the right system. A lot of his tape is similar to Stewart's at Oregon.

Stew had extra jets, and that was evident. Perine doesn't, which is also very evident. He projects to be a fullback by some scouts in regards to his running style. 

I think that he does have the potential to be productive in the NFL in a system that covets FBs and limited power-backs. The problem with Perine is whether he is really a three down back. Are his hands really good enough, and is he fluid enough to get open in space and make people miss? I have my doubts about that. 

If we do draft him, then people may want to lower their expectations. Lance Zielein basically compared him to Michael Turner...without the burner.

[csx]

5 minutes ago, Bronn said:

Marshawn and JStew, IIRC, both ran like a 4.46. Perine ran a 4.66.

.2 seconds, again I argue, isn't that big of a deal. That's less time than it takes to blink your eyes.

I think Arian Foster ran like a 4.68 and he had some damn good years.

Lynch wasn't a 4.45 guy once he got to Seattle and really made a name for himself. He did it as a wrecking ball.

[LinvilleGorge]

Sorry guys, I just don't see Perine as an every down NFL RB or a starter. He's a rotational guy, a short yardage specialist.

But, like I said earlier, if we took a guy like McCaffrey I wouldn't mind following it up with picking Perine if he was there in say the 5th round. We gotta eventually start evolving away from Cam being our primary short yardage ball carrier.

I just think you're way overdrafting Perine in the 2nd round. I think you basically have to look at this guy as hopefully a better version of Tony Gerhart. Honestly, that's my comparison for him coming out of college.

[imminent rogaine]

56 minutes ago, Bronn said:

Mixon is the complete package. Perine is a solid starting caliber power RB with good hands and excellent ball security.

Mixon is off the Panthers board. Perine is not.

The End.

This 100%. Comparing him to Mixon is pointless. We'd rather pass him up and be wrong about his character than draft him and be wrong about his character.

 If Fournette is gone, Perine is the guy I want and I think his draft position will yield the most value. His speed and his hands both looked fine at OU... its not like he is some huge fat slow slob with brick hands. Dude is a compact boulder... block him 3 yds, let him add some YAC and we are sitting at 2nd and 5 or 6. I'll take that any day of the week. The issue becomes, will we have the scheme to block that 3 yards.  Running out of shotgun isn't going to do it.