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Still don't want a RB in round 1 for a number of reasons

Ricky Spanish

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18 minutes ago, nctarheel0619 said:

He's has Reggie Bush 2.0 written all over him.  He's a "trick of all trades."  And a master of nothing.  

I would like him but if we all were real about it, can Cam find him and consistently hit him?

I just don't think he is in Cams lane skill set wise which is why the Panthers won't draft him.

They will go for Fournette and plod away and throw bombs to guys with 4.6 speed.

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I agree with you OP aside from maybe Fournette. I look at it from value. I think the value we can get on defense or TE in the first round far exceeds the value we could get at those positions later in the draft. While that is obviously generally true for everyone, after Fournette, I really don't see that with RB.  There is a big group of RBs who, at this point in time, are all about the same. If we come out of the draft with something like DE/TE, S, RB, DE/TE we will be sitting pretty. that said, I think we double dip at DE or RB.

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1 hour ago, nctarheel0619 said:

He's has Reggie Bush 2.0 written all over him.  He's a "trick of all trades."  And a master of nothing.  

If you don't think McCaffrey is a master of anything, then I don't know what you are watching.  He is one of the most agile backs to come out in a long time.  The film backs it up.  The measurables back it up.

He's far more comparable to McCoy than he is Bush.  Bush didn't have 1/4th of the vision McCaffrey has.

If you don't think McCaffrey will be good, then that is fair.  But he's not like Bush.

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1 minute ago, Mage said:

If you don't think McCaffrey is a master of anything, then I don't know what you are watching.  He is one of the most agile backs to come out in a long time.  The film backs it up.  The measurables back it up.

He's far more comparable to McCoy than he is Bush.  Bush didn't have 1/4th of the vision McCaffrey has.

If you don't think McCaffrey will be good, then that is fair.  But he's not like Bush.

 

I don't think he'll be good.  Reminds me of Reggie Bush.  I mean, we can differ.  

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It's looking more and more likely that RB will be the position we take in round 1. I for one, won't be thrilled for a number of reasons, but I'll still cheer for the guy and hope for the best. For those who are excited about the prospect of having our first pick be a RB, temper that excitement for a number of reasons:
  1. RBs have the shortest careers in the NFL. Spending a first round pick on a RB is not a long term solution.
  2. On average, they are most productive at age 26, decline for two years, and then drop off a cliff soon after. Imagine if we got the best years out of Cam or TD up to age 26 and it was all downhill from there. I'd be pretty pissed if we wasted a first round pick on that length of production.
  3. RBs are the most often injured position in the NFL. No, Seriously. You are essentially accepting that your first round pick will miss substantial amounts of time  throughout their career. You're basically drafting a guy with an injury history, even if he doesn't have one. We all love Stewart, but the biggest knock against him is that he can't stay on the field.
  4. The teams with the best records in the league tend to spend the least amount of money on the RB position. The outlier in this situation would be the Panthers last year, but then again, we've never had back to back winning seasons and we spend the second most on the position in the league.
  5. Similar production at the position can be had at a fraction of the cost, and a first round RB will be expensive down the line when his career is most likely on the downswing because if you remember, they peak at age 26, roughly around when our 1st round RB's first contract will be up. You can do more with solid production at the RB position with your money allocated elsewhere, than you can with elite production and money invested at RB. 
So all in all, I'm not thrilled if wel spend a high first round pick on a RB. As awesome as it would be to have Fournette on our team, I don't think it would help us out long term. Fournette's running style all but confirms to me that he will hit the injury report multiple times throughout his career. Guys who look for contact at that position tend to not last long, or aren't always available. Gun to my head, I'd rather have McCafferey based on injury risk alone, not pure talent. While Fournette is the more impressive sports car, it's hard to enjoy it when it's constantly in the shop. CMC doesn't have the injury history/risk that Fournette does, and he doesn't take the hits that Fournette does, so I believe he'll be on the field more often than Fournette, and therefor, will prove to be more valuable. 
This is of course, just my glass half empty perspective on drafting a RB in the first round. I was alright with it at the beginning of the offseason, but the closer we have gotten to the draft the less I like the idea. I'd rather spend our pick on a DE, Safety, or TE, and then take a RB in the second. Hell, I'd be alright if we traded back into the late first to take one, just not 8 overall, and especially not trading up before 8 to take one. It would be a waste of multiple picks.
Regardless of who we pick, I will not be actively rooting against the guy and will hope that my pessimistic outlook on the position is proven wrong 100 times over because I don't want to be right about all of this if we take a RB.
Just my two cents.


Definitely agree with you. People forget just last year, jordan howard was picked by the bears in the 5th round and he finished second in the league in rushing. Its not a hard position to play. We can find rbs in later rounds.


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