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2017 Free Agency

WUnderhill

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So when the Hornets picked up Cho's option, I felt it was a mistake. At the same time, I kind of just shrugged my shoulders and said "whatever". Upon further review of the 2017 Free Agent class, I can no longer shrug my shoulders. How does this guy have a job?

Let's review:
At the beginning of the 2016 season there was a lot of hope. We had Kemba and a lot of low risk, high reward type of guys. If MKG could finally use consistent health to take the next step, if Batum could take just a little step further, if Frank could learn to play D, if Hibbert worked out. A lot of if's. And speaking of Hibbert, IF those if's didn't work out, we had 2017 free agency to look forward to (and we were set up pretty nicely for it with things like Hibbert's 1 year contract). 

Here's a list of 2017 Free Agents that should interest us: Steph Curry, Kevin Durant, Blake Griffin, Gordon Hayward, Otto Porter, Nerlens Noel, Tony Snell, Caldwell-Pope

There are some pretty big names on that list, and 3 of the top 5 at our position of greatest need (SF). Not only that, but there's some pretty good shooters available, which we also desperately need. Whether you think we have a chance at some of these guys or not, we were set up to at least be players in a historically good free agent class. Enter Rich Cho and a mid-season panic trade for fugging Miles Plumlee. We traded an expiring contract for an albatross and completely took ourselves out of the 2017 free agency market. There's a lot of guys on that list who could help this team, and if we couldn't get any we would STILL be better off than we are now. It's been beat like a dead horse, but this Plumlee trade might have been the absolute worst possible move we could have made.

We no longer have a choice other than to blow it up and try to start over, but we won't do that because we have a GM who needs to win now to save his job. Only problem is, we've already lost. The hope that we had at the beginning of 2016 is being paid to Miles fugging Plumlee in large chunks of unearned and wasted money. We are destined to be middling. Get ready for misery.


 

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Do you realize on Day 1 of the new NBA season - we will be over the cap by $12 mil!!!!!!!!

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Our disgusting roster puts us over by 11.7 mil to be exact, but that is EVEN WITH the Cap going up from last year.. Naw man, naw.. Cho has got to go.. he has to..

You have a bit of wiggle room, maybe, in that we have a team option on Sessions - so we can save 6 mil by not picking that up - but then we need a backup PG as our #1b priority (#1a = wing scorer).. and anybody knows a backup PG worth a damn is easily gunna cost us more than 6 mil for sure..

Naw man.. he fugged the team.. maybe he was just doing what Jordan told him to do - but that doesn't make it any better:
- if he made the move because he is a shitty GM and talent evaluator = Fire his ass, you aren't fit to run a NBA franchise
- if he made the move because Jordan was pressuring him and he caved = Fire his ass, you aren't fit to run a NBA franchise

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Gonna need more than MLE for Jon Simmons. Why would he come here anyway unless we overpay? I'd take less to stay in San Antonio than come to this dumpster fire. Someone like him, an athletic rim protector , and great spot up shooter might get us to the 4 seed, but I doubt we can move the right pieces around.

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MJ will never hire someone who would dare challenge him.  If it isn't Cho, it will be some other buffoon.  All the while, the biggest buffoon is our owner.  I never cared for MJ even as a kid, and I think far less of him now than I did back then.

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