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Pro Football Focus Top 50 players: Luke number 10, Greg Olsen 44, Short 42, Cam not ranked.


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10 Luke Kuechly

Concussions are beginning to become a worrying specter over the career of Luke Kuechly, with significant time robbed from each of his past two seasons, but when he is on the field, he is the league’s best and most complete linebacker. Kuechly can read offenses like few other defenders and make plays, particularly in coverage, that you don’t see often. Even missing time last season and playing just 656 snaps, Kuechly still totaled 42 defensive stops, good enough for 23rd among all linebackers, and more than many who played an entire season

42 Kawann Short

Short began the 2016 season slowly, but over the second half of the season he was as dominant as any interior defender not named Aaron Donald. Short has put together back to back seasons in which he was the most disruptive force in the Panthers defensive front and has been able to destroy opposing offenses in both the run and pass game.

44 Greg Olsen

Olsen has been doing something unusual for the Panthers over the past couple of seasons – acting as the team’s primary receiving threat as a TE – while the team’s wideouts struggle. Olsen has been thrown the ball 258 times over the past two seasons, catching 173 of them (67 percent) and dropped just two of the 82 catchable targets thrown his way last season while topping a thousand receiving yards for the third straight year. What is also laudable about his last season was the degree to which his blocking improved. It was still far from a strength, but at least it was easier to overlook given how effective he is as a receiving weapon.

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3 minutes ago, falconidae said:

You know, I'm a Falcons fan and even I'm going WTF? How is Cam not one of the top 50 players going into next year? No offense meant to Luke, who is a great player, but he missed 6 games last year, how does he make the list and not Cam?

Ha, these days it doesn't matter what you've done in the past apparently.  "What have you done for me lately" is all anyone ever cares about and regardless of the reasons why, Cam had a fairly bad year, statistically speaking.  About to change that ish come September though.

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Let's be honest, if it was any other QB we were talking about we would all be bitching about them being on the list with 3500/19/14. He didn't have a good year. He's a dynamic game changing player when he's on point, but last year was just down right ugly. 

On a side note, the Falcons blew a 28-3 lead in the greatest collapse in SB history. 

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32 minutes ago, falconidae said:

You know, I'm a Falcons fan and even I'm going WTF? How is Cam not one of the top 50 players going into next year? No offense meant to Luke, who is a great player, but he missed 6 games last year, how does he make the list and not Cam?

All of these lists are just a bunch of rambling to kill time in the offseason. How many did the falcons have on this one? Do you know? Julio, Ryan, trufant? 

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40 minutes ago, nctarheel0619 said:

Coaching, good sir.  Coaching.  Simple as that.  

At some point this has to be addressed.  I'm all for the process but if this org wastes Cam and Luke I don't know how it could be defended.  We've got to get some results and quickly.

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