Looking at the fact's Gettleman wasn't poo.

[Saca312]

Just now, panther4life said:

I didn't say he sucked. I said the jury is still out on him. I did say however anyone crowning him a "hit" at this stage is a blind Gettleman homer. And now I don't have 3 days to read your longass thread on Worley.

Which proves my point. 

I'll translate what you just said:

"I'm going to say Worley's not a hit and say anyone saying otherwise is a Gettleman homer even though I've been countered with clear-cut evidence saying otherwise and can't bring up any evidence to back my own statement up."

He is a hit. No jury is out on him because he's already proven to be just as solid as Bradberry has been. I provided the film to prove that point, along with statistical evidence as well.

I disproved your statement above. Show me the evidence otherwise.

 

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7 minutes ago, TheRed said:

Not muh Gettleman!!

You're one of the more logical people on here and you've turned to supporting hurney too? I've tried to come up for any logical reason for someone to support hurney and I just can't. He's a puppet for the owner and got ran out of town before. Why would we go back to that? 

[Saca312]

Just now, uncfan888 said:

You're one of the more logical people on here and you've turned to supporting hurney too? I've tried to come up for any logical reason for someone to support hurney and I just can't. He's a puppet for the owner and got ran out of town before. Why would we go back to that? 

TheRed's been campaigning against Gettleman for a while, if you haven't noticed.

 

 

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15 minutes ago, panther4life said:

It almost feels like justice was served to have the tables turned. There are many who feel the same, but don't want to engage the gettlepie train as it was pointless. Now we can rejoice. 

What justice? Gettleman didn't deserve to get fired the way he did. He got this franchise set up for success after hurney ran it into the ground and left him with no cap room

[Saca312]

16 minutes ago, panther4life said:

Your 10k post on a forum in 2 months makes you look pathetic if you want to throw stones in a glass house fella. 

If Ealy wasn't a miss then why did Gettleman give him away this offseason? Or if Boston was such a hit, then why did Gettleman cut him? Better than Remmers on William's, haha thats setting the bar high.

Ealy didn't show motivation after performing at a Superbowl MVP level. Sort of like DeAngelo Williams in a way. Cut and given a chance to prove himself somewhere else during his contract year.

I wouldn't say DeAngelo Williams wasn't worth it. Just like Ealy produced, Williams did as well.

Boston cut because we have Mike Adams. Boston was starter material and contributed, so he's worth his draft slot. But due to his inconsistent state, we let him go. Doesn't mean he's a bust at all, especially considering where he was drafted.

Daryl Williams was rated PFF's #3 rookie at one point prior to his injury in 2015. When he started in 2016, he provided very solid production and looked great with Trai Turner. Held out the NFL's sack leader Vic Beasley sackless, and did well against other solid pass rushers.

Keep it up. 

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4 minutes ago, Saca312 said:

TheRed's been campaigning against Gettleman for a while, if you haven't noticed.

 

 

I can't keep up with this stuff anymore. I know aggie, GoobyPls, captain slay a ho, and Krovvy are hurney lovers.. Didn't realize red had joined them

[Saca312]

Just now, uncfan888 said:

What justice? Gettleman didn't deserve to get fired the way he did. He got this franchise set up for success after hurney ran it into the ground and left him with no cap room

He doesn't support anything he says, and when he gets countered with actual facts, he whines that "I don't have dur time to go through all that, so I'll remain ignorant and keep up with my baseless accusations"

Lmao.

[panther4life]

3 minutes ago, Saca312 said:

He doesn't support anything he says, and when he gets countered with actual facts, he whines that "I don't have dur time to go through all that, so I'll remain ignorant and keep up with my baseless accusations"

Lmao.

My OP had all the support it needed. You tried and prop up your attention whore post on Worley which I am under no obligation to read. You lied and said I said he "sucks" to try and meet your weakass agenda. I don't have the time to go back and forth with on this, so tell yourself whatever you'd like,because believe it or not as a fellow panther fan I want yo u to feel better about your life. If posting 18k words a day on the huddle does that for you,carry on. Good night.

[Saca312]

6 minutes ago, panther4life said:

You lied and said I said he "sucks" to try and meet your weakass agenda. 

So, you deliberately said saying he's a "hit" would make anyone a homer. So what does that imply other than you saying he sucks?

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My OP had all the support it needed

"I think this person sucks and this move sucks. My opinions are fact now"

That essentially was your OP. If that's all the support you need, then that shows how this piece is not credible whatsoever.

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You tried and prop up your attention whore post on Worley which I am under no obligation to read.

Sure, you're under no obligation to read it. Just shows you can't back any of your statements up, and have no credibility. I back up most of what I say with evidence and fact. You just provide conjecture and subjective opinions.

Like I said, if you want to look credible, counter the evidence I presented.

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I don't have the time to go back and forth with on this, so tell yourself whatever you'd like,because believe it or not as a fellow panther fan I want yo u to feel better about your life. If posting 18k words a day on the huddle does that for you,carry on. Good night.

And this is where you expose yourself as the simpleton you are. No need to say anything about this, since this essentially was an admittance of defeat.

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Preach 

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Just because you don't like how dg ran things does not mean you like hurney....can we get that out of the way, that's an borderline idiotic concept


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And to help op out a little bit further and answer I am still unable to get a consistent response to is what was the plan for the team ? It's clear he valued the d line but there was no clear plan in place when dg was here, just random good moves here and there sprinkled with some bad to very bad negotiations and backup planning.


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2 hours ago, Saca312 said:

 

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4 hours ago, Saca312 said:

Ealy would've been clear-cut Superbowl MVP had we won the game. Even if he did disappoint last season, he's not a miss. 

Remind me what round Tre Boston was picked in. I would say he's been a servicable starter for the value he was taken in. Sure, he's inconsistent, but he has shown good flashes. 

I'd take that any day for the round he was drafted in.

Bene is not a miss. He was a very good corner trending up right up to his leg injury. For a guy who could've been a solid starter before his injury, he did enough to warrant a fifth round pick.

For Daryl William's value, he's a good hit. Better than Remmers, and did pretty well against better competition throughout last season. 

Your luxury argument makes you look pathetic. Shaq has done a lot, especially considering most of Gman's picks are bottom 20 in each round. So has Vernon Butler for a 31st round pick, even progressing at the same rate KK Short has in a shorter amount of field time.

Sanchez is still debatable. A lot like Norman his rookie year. Probably a bust, I'll give you that.

Lmao booted Tillman? The guy just had another ACL tear and was constantly injured in 2015 at his old age. I loved him when he was here, but anyone could see he was done a mile away.

And the Hardy situation? Why the heck would you not tag your best pass rusher? This was before all the crazy around him emerged. You tag him and keep him if you can.

So much wrong with this.

Saca, I agree with some of your sentiment, but in my opinion you aren't even hiding your subjectivity as it pertains to Gettleman.

The jury is still out on a few players, quite naturally I might add, but Ealy was most definitely a miss. He was a bust for all intents and purposes for what and why he was brought here, and Gettleman thankfully decided to cut his losses and move on. Bene Benwikere showed some promise, but ultimately turned out to be a disaster, as did The Boston. All three are understandably gone, and though I'm too lazy to look it up, I'm pretty sure that Gettleman gave up a pick or two when drafting some of these players (and, no, I don't care that one was a 5th and 4th rounder respectively because even G-man admitted that all draft picks are gold) which has to be part of the equation. Moving up to take players like Funchess so highly, whose dial is pointing towards "miss" in some respects, is a valid criticism of Gettleman's draft tactics, as is the notion that he did make picks at positions of strength that were unnecessary, especially in light of obvious holes that needed addressing. That debate about Gettleman wasn't just born of "pathetic" Huddlers, but by people who analyze this stuff for a living. 

Another big debate was whether to tag Greg Hardy. There were compelling reasons not to tag him, so for you to suggest that it was a no-brainer is not accurate. Somewhere on these Huddle servers, even I questioned whether that money couldn't be better spent somewhere else. I would have gladly let him walk and signed Jared Veldheer and possibly Denarius Moore, and said so. Veldheer alone would have been worth it in my book, and I suggested this more than once. The character concerns alone were reason enough to question such a big investment at a time when other holes needed filling.

So just as you are accusing the OP of trying to pass off his opinions as fact, you are arguably doing the same thing. Cherry-picked video and stats don't change opinions into facts, they are used to support opinions, although sometimes they do show facts depending upon what one is arguing (e.g., Boston missed that tackle, or Gano missed that field goal from the left hash wide right).

On an off note, even PFF said that Worley "showed promise" the latter part of the season, but they didn't go as far to suggest that he's a lock. He is the one that really came on late. Bradberry was ALWAYS better even in camp as was stated by many, including Igo, it's just that he couldn't show it for most of the early part of the the season because of turf toe. For you to suggest that Worley was better for even the slightest sliver of time is just wrong.

I supported Gettleman in many respects, and if it were up to me he'd still be here, but the guy was far from perfect drafting, acquiring free agents, or handling the tag. Some of his decisions were (are) very debatable whether you want to acknowledge that fact or not. And, I'm not even suggesting that some of the players won't actually turn out good, but that's beside the point because there are certainly players that we missed out on regardless who may have met our needs better.