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Receivers need to be #1 priority.

Jeremy Igo

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Would be cool if we could somehow get Norman back, and then trade for Josh Gordon . Massive upgrades to offense and defense with 2 players.

I'd trade any of our draft picks for Gordon. I dont think its feasible because cleveland already has so many high picks our picks probably have little value to them. 

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19 minutes ago, Hoenheim said:

Would be cool if we could somehow get Norman back, and then trade for Josh Gordon . Massive upgrades to offense and defense with 2 players.

I'd trade any of our draft picks for Gordon. I dont think its feasible because cleveland already has so many high picks our picks probably have little value to them. 

then lets think outside the box...who does cleveland need from us that we would let go for their picks?

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1 minute ago, The Righteous Troll said:

No.1 Priority is debatable but it is a stong argument. Funchess was just an insurance policy on what would happen if Kelvin got hurt rather than to be a primary WR option....he has really impressed and is tough as nails but who knows how high his ceiling is? I'm an Ohio State Buckeye fan but Samuel does worry me at this level. Going back to training camp he dealt with migraines, then the hammy issue. and he not only dropped at touchdown pass shades of Ted Ginn but also broke his ankle in the same game...can't be trusted to be there. McCaffery is probably our best WR but not sure this coaching staff will just straight up have him in the slot more than the backfield like it should be. He could be a solid slot imo because I don't think he is a NFL RB at all. Let's be honest Byrd, Bersin, Clay and Shepard are all special teams players who don't need to be in the starting lineup...maybe Byrd can hang around but we'll see

 

Running back is a bigger priority IMO. We chose a "RB" 8th overall but you take out Cam's rushing totals and we rank 31st in rushing....completely unacceptable 

eh thats not all CMCs fault. Stew had a worse rushing average than he did for the season. But I agree though his inability to break tackles is a killer. 

If I were the one in charge I'd just make CMC the full time slot WR and play him on the outside in certain situations. 

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52 minutes ago, heel31ok said:

then lets think outside the box...who does cleveland need from us that we would let go for their picks?

Not a clue really. Who do we really have ? We cant trade Luke, Cam, Olsen, CMC.  Anyone else that would have anywhere near approximate matching value of Gordon? I dont think so. 

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Going to disagree and say o-line is the biggest need (at least parts of it). The sooner the front office and coaching come to grips with that, the  better off the offense will be. cam rarely gets time for passes and the RBs rarely get holes...this is an o-line problem. If Cam was not the freak he is...RR would have been long gone, for too many losing seasons. Think those that are honest with themselves, know this...lol.

If we want to pass or run, we need decent o-line. With Shula out, hope the o-line is the next priority.

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11 minutes ago, Lords0fPain said:

Going to disagree and say o-line is the biggest need (at least parts of it). The sooner the front office and coaching come to grips with that, the  better off the offense will be. cam rarely gets time for passes and the RBs rarely get holes...this is an o-line problem. If Cam was not the freak he is...RR would have been long gone, for too many losing seasons. Think those that are honest with themselves, know this...lol.

If we want to pass or run, we need decent o-line. With Shula out, hope the o-line is the next priority.

Everything really hinges on this.  Maybe Norv can scheme around some of their limitations but he can only do that for so long before defenses figure it out.

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14 minutes ago, Lords0fPain said:

Going to disagree and say o-line is the biggest need (at least parts of it). The sooner the front office and coaching come to grips with that, the  better off the offense will be. cam rarely gets time for passes and the RBs rarely get holes...this is an o-line problem. If Cam was not the freak he is...RR would have been long gone, for too many losing seasons. Think those that are honest with themselves, know this...lol.

If we want to pass or run, we need decent o-line. With Shula out, hope the o-line is the next priority.

I feel like Moton can maybe do LT the following season if Kalil performs like he has again. We might have to go C in the 2nd round

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10 minutes ago, beastson said:

I feel like Moton can maybe do LT the following season if Kalil performs like he has again. We might have to go C in the 2nd round

Larsen is adequate enough if push comes to shove.  Ryans Heath and contract dictate his future. 

Matt is a tough one to calculate.  He definitely isn't worth his contract but he wasn't a complete disaster either.   Can the find an upgrade?  A lot of teams will be asking that question this off-season and the cost will be steep if there is even one available.  I say he stays and they hope like hell he gets better or you best Moton somehow turns into the solution.

Norwell is a must sign though.  Good help us now that Hurney is writing the check.

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2 minutes ago, Shocker said:

We need 2 legit WRs.  Lots of needs to address, but SS is a huge need.  RB, OT, TE,  and really most of all EDGE.  Gotta get an rusher.

We don't know what we need just yet.  You're basing your assumptions on what would make a Shula run offense work.  Shula's lineup is not necessarily what Norv invisions.  We shall see.

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5 minutes ago, Jon Snow said:

We don't know what we need just yet.  You're basing your assumptions on what would make a Shula run offense work.  Shula's lineup is not necessarily what Norv invisions.  We shall see.

No assuming...I am looking at the roster.  We need offense regardless of coordinator.  That and a pass rusher and SS.  Minimum.

Adding...our WR group is LED by Funchess who I like but damn.  None of those other guys have done anything for a season.

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