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Best Team in NFC South


DaveThePanther2008

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Got a little bored so I went to Pro Football Reference

Carolina Panthers have the best overall record in the NFC South.

After 23 Seasons we have finally hit .500 (counting playoffs) 192-192-1

The others aren't even close

Atlanta Falcons  52 seasons 361-457-6

New Orleans Saints 51 Season 357-442-5

Tampa Bay Bucs 42 Seasons 261-413-1

17 Franchises ahead of us in overall record including Cleveland (surprised) New England, Indy/Baltimore, KC, Oakland, Denver, Baltimore Ravens, Pittsburgh and Miami from AFC.  Washington, Dallas, NYG, Chicago, Green Bay, Minnesota, SF and Seattle (10 games above)

Most of these teams (including Cleveland 50s and 60's) had a dominate run at one point or another during their time.   Cleveland and Minnesota are the only teams not to win Super Bowl.

Not bad for 23 years.

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But hey, let's not mess with the whole "ineptitude of the franchise throughout its life" idea that has run rampant through the Huddle over the last year. You can point out that 21 teams have worse overall records than us, but it won't matter.

They want to compare us to the history of the Patriots and Broncos, Steelers and Cowboys over the last couple of decades, glossing over the hard years each of those franchises suffered through. They'll tell you that Rivera sucks and that Fox sucked before him. They cut their teeth on Madden and saw Belichick run the last two decades of championships through Foxboro.

In short, they're putzes and schmucks. They want their participation trophies and have no idea how darned hard it is to win a championship in the NFL and how rare it is to even hit .500 for a franchise's lifetime.

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5 minutes ago, Khyber53 said:

But hey, let's not mess with the whole "ineptitude of the franchise throughout its life" idea that has run rampant through the Huddle over the last year. You can point out that 21 teams have worse overall records than us, but it won't matter.

They want to compare us to the history of the Patriots and Broncos, Steelers and Cowboys over the last couple of decades, glossing over the hard years each of those franchises suffered through. They'll tell you that Rivera sucks and that Fox sucked before him. They cut their teeth on Madden and saw Belichick run the last two decades of championships through Foxboro.

In short, they're putzes and schmucks. They want their participation trophies and have no idea how darned hard it is to win a championship in the NFL and how rare it is to even hit .500 for a franchise's lifetime.

Absolutely.   Look at Cleveland.  They has struggled since they came back to Cleveland in 99.  Who would have thought they were over .500 for a lifetime record.  (I sure didnt) That franchise was once the epitomy of an NFL franchise in the 50s and 60s,  Before Brady rose NE out of the shadows.  New England was a subpar team. 

The Steelers I believe have the best overall percentage.  I wasn't doing the math but briefly notice they were well over .500.

For as young as we are we have done quite well, IMO.

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16 minutes ago, Khyber53 said:

But hey, let's not mess with the whole "ineptitude of the franchise throughout its life" idea that has run rampant through the Huddle over the last year. You can point out that 21 teams have worse overall records than us, but it won't matter.

They want to compare us to the history of the Patriots and Broncos, Steelers and Cowboys over the last couple of decades, glossing over the hard years each of those franchises suffered through. They'll tell you that Rivera sucks and that Fox sucked before him. They cut their teeth on Madden and saw Belichick run the last two decades of championships through Foxboro.

In short, they're putzes and schmucks. They want their participation trophies and have no idea how darned hard it is to win a championship in the NFL and how rare it is to even hit .500 for a franchise's lifetime.

Pretty sure the point you're making IS saying you want the participation trophy. NEAT ... we're at .500. Now what? Now nothing. Being .500 or above means nothing. Zilch. Nada. Zero. But hey, as long as you're happy with being better than 21 teams, good for ya.

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5 minutes ago, Still Brooklyn said:

Pretty sure the point you're making IS saying you want the participation trophy. NEAT ... we're at .500. Now what? Now nothing. Being .500 or above means nothing. Zilch. Nada. Zero. But hey, as long as you're happy with being better than 21 teams, good for ya.

Baltimore Ravens Franchise Encyclopedia

Seasons: 22 (1996 to 2017)

Record (W-L-T): 190-161-1

Playoff Record: 15-8

Super Bowls Won: 2 (2 Appearances)

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