Some of that Kalil $ could have gone toward keeping Norwell

[Porn Shop Clerk]

The Jeff Lewis-Steve Burlein-Chris Weinke fiasco.

 

[Porn Shop Clerk]

5 hours ago, top dawg said:

Well,  if I wasn't  so preoccupied trying to work,  I would have said that just because the market is filled with suspect LTs doesn't mean that you have to pay the normal going rate to anyone.  You let some other person do that,  and then you look for a value, even a Band-Aid if necessary. 

And that's how you end up with Byron Bell and Mike Remmers.

[Toomers]

2 hours ago, thomas96 said:

http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/carolina-panthers/matt-kalil-9814/

 

$7M dead money in 2019 if we cut him that offseason. $3M cap hit last year, $7M cap hit next year. Not nearly as bad of a contract as people here make it out to be.

   Now read the first line underneath. He gets a 10M option bonus in March or it turns into guaranteed base salary this year. 2.5M of that bonus is part of his 6.9 M cap hit for 2017. Sportrac fails to figure in the remainder of it. 7.2M left on his signing bonus and 7.5 of the option bonus. Remember when he signed, he got 25M guaranteed. This is where it comes from.  

  OTC has the correct(and depressing) numbers.

[frash.exe]

7 minutes ago, Porn Shop Clerk said:

And that's how you end up with Byron Bell and Mike Remmers.

top dawg was part of the roving troupe of guys here constantly complaining that gettleman was being cheap a few years ago when we were starting these guys. in 2017 we make a splash and get matt kalil and now he’s got buyer’s remorse. “why did we pay him big money? we needed that for norwell...” because OT is one of those positions that are always overpriced in FA, and if we didn’t sign matt kalil, ppl would be on here this very day bitching about us being cheap and pinning gettleman’s firing on the fact that he wasn’t willing to take a risk on the guy, bc panther fans don’t know what the fug they want, and i’m honestly getting sick of the rhetoric here.

[The Lobo]

3 minutes ago, frash.exe said:

top dawg was part of the roving troupe of guys here constantly complaining that gettleman was being cheap a few years ago when we were starting these guys. in 2017 we make a splash and get matt kalil and now he’s got buyer’s remorse. “why did we pay him big money? we needed that for norwell...” because OT is one of those positions that are always overpriced in FA, and if we didn’t sign matt kalil, ppl would be on here this very day bitching about us being cheap and pinning gettleman’s firing on the fact that he wasn’t willing to take a risk on the guy, bc panther fans don’t know what the fug they want, and i’m honestly getting sick of the rhetoric here.

Don’t be sad bro, VSauce is still making videos.

[pantherj]

Bad OT market. Top OTs coming out of the draft and being busts. It leads to teams offering desperation deals. Other teams were hot for Matt as well.  I hated the contract, but we have other bad contracts on this team.

[Peppers90 NC]

Already have Tra, that much $$ for 2 guards is foolish.  It took 10 weeks to get the run game going and that happen when Kalil came back. Let Norwell get paid somewhere else not in Atlanta.

[TheRed]

35 minutes ago, Porn Shop Clerk said:

And that's how you end up with Byron Bell and Mike Remmers.

We basically threw 50+ million at a slightly less terrible version of both those guys.

I mean if we paid Bell or Remmers that much I would expect everyone here to be a little hot about it.

[MasterAwesome]

5 hours ago, top dawg said:

Well,  if I wasn't  so preoccupied trying to work,  I would have said that just because the market is filled with suspect LTs doesn't mean that you have to pay the normal going rate to anyone.  You let some other person do that,  and then you look for a value, even a Band-Aid if necessary. 

The irony is that you couldn’t have summed up the Dave Gettleman philosophy any better if you tried. Hence the “Bargain Bin Dave” nickname...yet the one time he strayed from his approach and overpaid for a FA, you are so quick and vocal to crucify him. This was such a stark contrast to how he had drawn up contracts and played out FA this far, which is why some people wonder if there was pressure from higher up for the Kalil signing.

[TheRed]

The notion that a brash/outspoken hard ass like Dave Gettleman who was publicly celebrated here for such was forced to do anything is too absurd for words.

[MasterAwesome]

Being brash/outspoken somehow would exempt you from following the orders of your boss lol. Someone has never had a job before...too funny.

[frash.exe]

1 hour ago, The Lobo said:

Don’t be sad bro, VSauce is still making videos.

i know

 

[panthers1234]

11 hours ago, TheRed said:

So let's summarize.

50+ million to one of the worst left tackles in the NFL. Let Ginn walk to our biggest rival for peanuts to the detriment of our WR core. Drafted an RB 8th overall that couldn't even crack 500 rushing yards while our QB led the team in rushing and ended up nearly destroying his knee.

Executive of the year!

What you said is true but it completely doesn't represent an accurate picture of the franchise. We just went 11-5 and most of the team is running in fine shape. I hate bias like this because you point out the worst decisions of person while completely ignoring all the good things they have done. The good things outweigh the bad by a large amount. You can tell this by the 11-5 record and we were competitive in the playoffs. 

[TheRed]

12 minutes ago, panthers1234 said:

What you said is true but it completely doesn't represent an accurate picture of the franchise. We just went 11-5 and most of the team is running in fine shape. I hate bias like this because you point out the worst decisions of person while completely ignoring all the good things they have done. The good things outweigh the bad by a large amount. You can tell this by the 11-5 record and we were competitive in the playoffs. 

You can't just blindly throw out 11-5 while completely overlooking extenuating circumstances.

Our QB almost blew his knee out dragging us to that record with his legs. You're okay with that? Remove that factor from the equation and we're lucky to replicate our 2016 win/loss record.