Current Grade: Incomplete

[Moo Daeng]

Sociology

[The Natural]

6 minutes ago, NanuqoftheNorth said:

Why do you consider this thread to be bashing Hurney?

Grade Incomplete, seems pretty innocuous, if not obvious.

Several of the poster in this thread went out of their way earlier today to praise Hurney for cutting some underperforming players without hurting their feelings.  Now the same poster show up in this thread all upset that Scot is giving Hurney an Incomplete.

Hurney's Howlers  

 No poo it's incomplete, we haven't even made it to free agency yet but Mr. Scot is so furious over the possibility of people perceiving Hurney in a positive manner to this point that he felt the need to make a pointless thread to try and change the narrative. "Don't you DARE think he made a good move! That's not determined yet!". Why does he care so much if someone thinks Marty is doing ok so far? It's a rather fascinating obsession. He has been by far the most negative and constantly miserable poster on this board for almost a year now. He's gotta get over the loss of Dave at some point. 

[NanuqoftheNorth]

1 minute ago, top dawg said:

It's called reading between the lines.  I wasn't even the one who first brought it up.  It's not an original thought. If you're going to wait and see,  then wait and see. Don't give me this "incomplete" b.s.

I'm all for giving Hurney a second chance, after all what other choice is there?

We are all going to have to wait and see.

If things go better this time we'll all be winners.

Gotta like that.

[Shocker]

I agreed with keeping Gano as he was more proven and it was a close race but you have to choose 1 kicker in the end.  Gano did a good job last year so no hindsight needed on that decision.

[NanuqoftheNorth]

1 minute ago, The Natural said:

 No poo it's incomplete, we haven't even made it to free agency yet but Mr. Scot is so furious over the possibility of people perceiving Hurney in a positive manner to this point that he felt the need to make a pointless thread to try and change the narrative. "Don't you DARE think he made a good move! That's not determined yet!". Why does he care so much if someone thinks Marty is doing ok so far? It's a rather fascinating obsession. He has been by far the most negative and constantly miserable poster on this board for almost a year now. He's gotta get over the loss of Dave at some point. 

It is the offseason and watching the second coming of Marty Hurney is about the hottest ticket in town right now.

Even if you don't agree with him, be thankful Mr. Scot is still around to stir up a little activity in this forum.

[top dawg]

Just now, NanuqoftheNorth said:

I'm all for giving Hurney a second chance, after all what other choice is there?

We are all going to have to wait and see.

If things go better this time we'll all be winners.

Gotta like that.

I'm not holding my breath, but I am holding out hope that Hurney has genuinely learned from some of his past mistakes and more during his time away.  I'm genuinely willing to wait and see what he does before I praise or criticize the man, especially based upon the past mistakes of his first era.  His opportunity is a unique one, one that could be redeeming if he makes moves based upon his unique perspective during his time away from the team. It is a compelling situation,  and it would seem to me that everyone should wish the man well considering the circumstances. But that's not how it has been.  

[Kevin Greene]

2 hours ago, Mr. Scot said:

So I see a few folks evaluating "Hurney 2.0" with "good moves so far".

Eeehhh, maybe.

 

It does look OK now because most of the moves that matter have been offseason cuts that were simply common sense. Really surprised Hurney cut Stewart, pleasantly surprised you might say.

The proof in the pudding will be contracts handed out to players currently on the roster or Free Agents.

A blown Draft Pick would only be a rookie contract deal.

*fingers crossed new management blows Hurney out before he again destroys the Cap for 5 years*

[NanuqoftheNorth]

1 minute ago, top dawg said:

I'm not holding my breath, but I am holding out hope that Hurney has genuinely learned from some of his past mistakes and more during his time away.  I'm genuinely willing to wait and see what he does before I praise or criticize the man, especially based upon the past mistakes of his first era.  His opportunity is a unique one, one that could be redeeming if he makes moves based upon his unique perspective during his time away from the team. It is a compelling situation,  and it would seem to me that everyone should wish the man well considering the circumstances. But that's not how it has been.  

I would have preferred the team go in another direction with GM, but that didn't happen.

Marty is back and hopefully better than ever.

Here's to hoping for the best.

[Mr. Scot]

1 hour ago, top dawg said:

What are you saying?  Are you essentially saying that some can't stand anyone saying anything remotely positive about Hurney, so as opposed to explicitly telling people they're full of poo for saying that Hurney has done a decent job so far---as little and/or seemingly routine as it is---that they wrap it up in a premature grade thread that's really just another bash-Hurney thread? 

*giggle*

If you think I said nothing positive about Hurney in the initial thread, your reading comprehension needs improvement.

That, or you just need to be a little less butthurt.

[top dawg]

8 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

If you think I said nothing positive about Hurney in the initial thread, your reading comprehension needs improvement.

That, or you just need to be a little less butthurt.

Just like I've said plenty of good things about Gettleman.  Waaaay more than you ever said about Hurney.  

 

We all know how you feel about Hurney. Don't get "brand new" now.  You can't undo what you've done...unless you're repenting or something...

[Mr. Scot]

4 minutes ago, top dawg said:

Just like I've said plenty of good things about Gettleman.  Waaaay more than you ever said about Hurney. 

We all know how you feel about Hurney. Don't get "brand new" now.  You can't undo what you've done...unless you're repenting or something...

Not undoing anything.  I stand by what I've said to date.  Whereas statements like "Ron Rivera won in spite of Dave Gettleman" don't exactly inspire confidence in someone's objectivity.

Tell me, if someone with no opinion on the topic were to read this thread, who would they think had an emotional stake in the debate?

Go back and reread my original analysis and subsequent posts, and then read some of the responses by the "you just wanna bash Hurney" crowd.  Then tell me who sounds like they're reasoning through this stuff and who sounds like a group of catty teenage girls.

[top dawg]

The fact is is that you and others have already given Hurney an F grade based upon the work of his last era.  You know?  The first decade.  You've essentially said as much time and time again. The "I" is just a smokescreen for the F you've already given him. 

[Mr. Scot]

2 minutes ago, top dawg said:

The fact is is that you and others have already given Hurney an F grade based upon the work of his last era.  You know?  The first decade.  You've essentially said as much time and time again. The "I" is just a smokescreen for the F you've already given him. 

From the OP...

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So overall, a pretty mixed bag on last year's moves - some still without definitive outcomes - and most of this year's significant moves are yet to come.

Obviously, Hurney's first run as Panthers GM doesn't merit good grades.  Yes, he made some good moves, but nobody gives you credit for "good moves".  You either win or you don't, and more often than not Hurney's teams didn't.  Three out of eleven winning seasons is a score of 27 percent.  If you go by win-loss record, Hurney's teams fall just short of 500 overall.  On pretty much any grade scale, either of those percentages are failing. 

As far as Hurney's second run, though?  In my mind, there's not enough information yet to award a grade of A or F, so I'm giving it an I for Incomplete.

You didn't actually read the original post before coming in to bash it, did you?

Solid strategy.

I guess you think you sound clever in here, but as others have pointed out, it's anything but.

[Yaboychris28]

Hurney has done well with a few obvious decisions thus far, which to his credit could have been easily messed up based on this franchises history of ineptitude at times..  I'm not a Hurney hater or a praiser. I'll wait until free agency &  the draft is over to give my 2 cents on the Hurndog.