First round "light" on top picks?

[TheSpecialJuan]

12 hours ago, thomas96 said:

I feel like this is said every single year...

right. 

[Shocker]

I stopped reading at "former Browns GM"

[stirs]

12 minutes ago, MHS831 said:

Yup.  I see us trading up for a DE, S, or OL.  About it.

Chubb the only DE above us that can start in a 43 D?

Which OL?  Which Safety?

[Mr. Scot]

9 minutes ago, Shocker said:

I stopped reading at "former Browns GM"

Hey, he drafted Joe Thomas.

If there's one thing reading this board has taught me, it's that drafting one or two great players is enough to make you a good GM regardless of how the rest of your performance goes.

[AU-panther]

Just because the draft is light on top talent doesn't mean there won't be value in the later rounds.  Some of the later rounds can actually be better.

For example:

75 players - 20 1st round grades, 35 second round grades, 20 3rd round grades

75 players - 25 1st round grades, 25 second round grades, 25 3rd round grades

People need to stop thinking in terms of ranking but instead grades.

I think there will be some good value in round 2-4 with both guards and RBs, two positions we could use.  Also there are some tempting WR prospects in that range.  All positons of need, we would be stupid to give up those picks just to move up in the first.

If I look at all of our needs and the draft as a whole I'm starting to lean CB, Safety, or DE in the first just because I feel like we can find a guard, RB, and maybe a WR in rounds 2-3.  I really don't count on starters after the third.

 

[MHS831]

57 minutes ago, stirs said:

Chubb the only DE above us that can start in a 43 D?

Which OL?  Which Safety?

Great questions.  I should have been more clear.  I think the trade up for DE could be like we did for D. Hall last year---moving up in the third to grab Sweat.  Maybe we could move up in the second for Hubbard or Key. The OL--I think we are going to draft the LG replacement, maybe one that can switch over to C.  In the second round, we could move up for Price or Daniels.  Safety: If Derwin falls to 18 or so, try to offer a third to move up.

 

[stirs]

4 minutes ago, MHS831 said:

Great questions.  I should have been more clear.  I think the trade up for DE could be like we did or D. Hall last year---moving up in the third to grab Sweat.  Maybe we could move up in the second for Hubbard or Key. The OL--I think we are going to draft the LG replacement, maybe one that can switch over to C.  In the second round, we could move up for Price or Daniels.  Safety: If Derwin falls to 18 or so, try to offer a third to move up.

 

Got it

If I were going to move up

I would probably take Will Hernandez in the 1st

Trade up for Hubbard as you say in the 2nd

And take Kyzir White with my one 3rd rounder

 

Still leaves a lot of holes to fill at ILB, OLB, WR, TE, QB, RB, etc.  FA can get a few of them and maybe there will be a good RB in the 5th, anyway, fun to surmise

[MHS831]

When the experts collect data, interview, measure, weigh, test, watch film, etc. candidates for months--bring them in for visits, etc.  You would expect the first rounders would all be successful.  I think their bust rate is about 40%. 

This draft does not have the elite talent.  I would trade back if Derwin James or Calvin Ridley is not on the board.