Burberry Bradberry

[Ace_Aladdin]

I'll take BB over anyone in NFCS 24/7 

Bradberry >  Lattimore  

 

[Snake]

Him and Action Jackson are going to lock down the South. 

[TheCasillas]

This thread is going to put ultimately lead to a lot of poo on JB, but if you watch the tape, we really put Bradberry is a tough spot last year.  Im not saying he performed well, but James was always on an island, and teams would pick apart our Tampa cover 2 with short routes. Which is the best strategy.

you can’t ask a corner to not give up anything underneath, and not give him support over the top, and expect greatness. The goal for our defense last year was to get to the qb before they finish their drop, but everyone knows if you aren’t there when the qb is set, it’s on the coverage at that point. 

I expect a better year from James, and I hope it’s true. The new archetype of our defense is interesting, because we are not focusing on big body corners like we did with gettleman. However, JB will play a special coverage role this year due to his size. Much like Sherman did. I’m intrigued.

[saints4lifeagain]

Why in blue hell was that the tape you decided to show? He didn't create a single play on the ball? He should have given up 2 TDs, if Thielen and Diggs don't bounce the ball off their chest, as well as the second being interference. His pick is a catch he gave up that Diggs bounced off his helmet on the way down.

I mean, if you're going to make an assertion that he's the best in the division, put on some decent tape. He, himself, didn't force a single incompletion. 

[jumpman910]

Yikes, drinking early I see 

[ncfan]

1 hour ago, Ace_Aladdin said:

I'll take BB over anyone in NFCS 24/7 

Bradberry >  Lattimore  

 

Your crazy.

That highlight video was guys making catches on him or getting open and having wide open drops

There were only 2-3 plays that whole video where he even did anything. 

1. The ball the the WR right in the the hands, deflected right into Bradberrys lap for a Int.  Shepard wouldve even caught that.

2. A bad throw behind the WR and Bradberry was able to make a play

 

Bradberry played decent his rookie year butbreally dropped off and has something to prove this year.  Youve been sipping the punch too much and have some serious homer glasses if you think Bradberry is one of the top CBs in the league right now.  Thats about as crazy of a claim as saying Funchess > Julio and ODBj

 

 

 

[CPF4LIFE]

Bradberry had a down year, posting a highlight video of one game proves nothing. 

[Ace_Aladdin]

2 hours ago, ncfan said:

Your crazy.

That highlight video was guys making catches on him or getting open and having wide open drops

There were only 2-3 plays that whole video where he even did anything. 

1. The ball the the WR right in the the hands, deflected right into Bradberrys lap for a Int.  Shepard wouldve even caught that.

2. A bad throw behind the WR and Bradberry was able to make a play

 

Bradberry played decent his rookie year butbreally dropped off and has something to prove this year.  Youve been sipping the punch too much and have some serious homer glasses if you think Bradberry is one of the top CBs in the league right now.  Thats about as crazy of a claim as saying Funchess > Julio and ODBj

 

 

 

I’m not basing it on just this tape. Lattimore had benefit of having faster overall secondary. 

Bradberry is hands down the better run defender. 2018 season will showcase that. 

@saints4lifeagain who did y’all lose to in the playoffs. 

[Ace_Aladdin]

2 hours ago, Snake said:

Him and Action Jackson are going to lock down the South. 

Ross Cockrell should also have a major impact as #2 

 

 

[Ace_Aladdin]

 

[ncfan]

29 minutes ago, Ace_Aladdin said:

I’m not basing it on just this tape. Lattimore had benefit of having faster overall secondary. 

Bradberry is hands down the better run defender. 2018 season will showcase that. 

@saints4lifeagain who did y’all lose to in the playoffs. 

 

 

Lattimore made plays on the ball. 

Bradberry made tackles on his man after the guy made a catch on him

Lattimore caused more incompletions and ints

Bradberry caused more 10 yards receptions

 

You want a Norman

Or

A Melvin White?

 

And Im glad he can play run defense but 80% of a DBs job is defense in the passing game.  Thats why certain ones fall in the draft (example Ronnie Harrison who at one point was borderline 1st round prospect and a helluva run defender but couldnt cover to save his life and fell to the very bottom of the 3rd)  weve had other DBs who could play run D but were quick to run him out of town.

Heck Vernon Butler is great at batting down passes so why arent we crowning him so fast.

And according to pff graded higher than Bradberry last year.

https://www.profootballfocus.com/nfl/players/vernon-butler/10664

https://www.profootballfocus.com/nfl/players/james-bradberry/10696

Think we are just so high on him because his rookie season our front pressured well and Worley was so trash they picked on him (hence less throws Bradberrys way) and when that happened everyone lost their minds thinking Bradberry was great because few targets his way.

Year 2, Worley improved some.  Teams noticed Bradberry, and more blitzes left him alone with no help and exposed.  Bradberry is about on the same Level as pther former 2nd rounder Ealy at this point, without the record setting game Ealy put up in the Super bowl.

[MHS831]

3 hours ago, TheCasillas said:

This thread is going to put ultimately lead to a lot of poo on JB, but if you watch the tape, we really put Bradberry is a tough spot last year.  Im not saying he performed well, but James was always on an island, and teams would pick apart our Tampa cover 2 with short routes. Which is the best strategy.

you can’t ask a corner to not give up anything underneath, and not give him support over the top, and expect greatness. The goal for our defense last year was to get to the qb before they finish their drop, but everyone knows if you aren’t there when the qb is set, it’s on the coverage at that point. 

I expect a better year from James, and I hope it’s true. The new archetype of our defense is interesting, because we are not focusing on big body corners like we did with gettleman. However, JB will play a special coverage role this year due to his size. Much like Sherman did. I’m intrigued.

Thank you.  Been saying this all year.  Less blitzing = better CB play.  JB, a zone CB by trade, was locked onto #1 WRs a lot with no help. 

Finally, he is entering his third year.  A good many of the crackheads and methers on here were screaming to get Norman back and ditch Bradberry.  However, if you compare year 2 Bradberry to year 2 Norman, you see that Bradberry was better.  He was more disciplined, often giving up the 10 yard catch because he knew there was no help behind him.  Norman would have gone for the pick and given up as many TDs as pass breakups and interceptions.  Bradberry has the tools to be a solid QB.  Last year was not the right system for Bradberry or Norman.  Both underperformed. 

 

[saints4lifeagain]

56 minutes ago, Ace_Aladdin said:

I’m not basing it on just this tape. Lattimore had benefit of having faster overall secondary. 

Bradberry is hands down the better run defender. 2018 season will showcase that. 

@saints4lifeagain who did y’all lose to in the playoffs. 

What is, not the Panthers, Alex?

That's irrelevant, regardless. Run defense? That's why he's better than Lattimore? He can't cover a twin size bed with a king size sheet but his run defense makes him better?

Lattimore: 36 catches on 68 targets. 487 yards. 0 TDs and 5 INTs. 45 QB rating.

Bradberry: 57 catches on 102 targets. 795 yards. 2 TDs 2 INTs. 80 QB rating. 

Lattimore has the highest tackling efficiency at CB in the division. He missed 2 tackles all year. Bradberry missed 8.

[LinvilleGorge]

Bradberry looked like a future shutdown CB as a roookie. He looked like a future burger flipper last season. The reality is that is future is likely somewhere in between those two extremes.