Jerry Richardson To Make His Final Appearance At The League Meetings Today

[Mr. Scot]

28 minutes ago, AggieLean said:

Nobody is acting like he murdered anyone. Him using racial slurs and sexually harassing employees is a big deal, though, no matter how small you and a select few think it’s not.

I don't get it.

Yes, Richardson founded the team, but his actions toward some of his employees are absolutely reprehensible. Do we excuse others for doing bad things just because they accomplished something in the past? To me, this is no different than saying "You know, Harvey Weinstein made some amazing movies".

The scout to whom I believe this happened was a good scout who was said to be rising through the ranks. He had been featured a few times in stories on Panthers.com where he talked about the draft and such. He didn't deserve this. No one does.

And no, nobody made this up. There was sufficient evidence to require non-disclosure agreements. If that wasn't enough, you've got the handwritten notes. But I guess some folks won't believe anything unless there's a video record of it. Good thing the court system doesn't apply that standard.

[Mr. Scot]

5 minutes ago, t96 said:

Dawg if he was throwing around the n-word or any other racial slurs you can be damn sure that would have come out by now.

Harvey Weinstein did far more than Jerry Richardson, yet it was kept quiet for decades.

Powerful men have long been able to keep things secret. 

[top dawg]

1 minute ago, Mr. Scot said:

Harvey Weinstein did far more than Jerry Richardson, yet it was kept quiet for decades.

Powerful men have long been able to keep things secret. 

You're absolutely correct, but for me it's more than just about what can and cannot be proven, it's about a man's heart. Not saying that he does this, but if he's the type that will use the term in business, then what about behind closed doors? What about amongst family and friends? When a person gets to the point where they are bothered by the use of racial pejoratives in those more intimate types of settings, then we know that a corner has been turned.  

[Sam Mills Fan]

23 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

I don't get it.

Yes, Richardson founded the team, but his actions toward some of his employees are absolutely reprehensible. Do we excuse others for doing bad things just because they accomplished something in the past? To me, this is no different than saying "You know, Harvey Weinstein made some amazing movies".

The scout to whom I believe this happened was a good scout who was said to be rising through the ranks. He had been featured a few times in stories on Panthers.com where he talked about the draft and such. He didn't deserve this. No one does.

And no, nobody made this up. There was sufficient evidence to require non-disclosure agreements. If that wasn't enough, you've got the handwritten notes. But I guess some folks won't believe anything unless there's a video record of it. Good thing the court system doesn't apply that standard.

Like I said, we saw the same thing with Greg Hardy. I don't know if it's misogyny, celebrity worship, or both; but this forum has a long history of defending people associated with this team no matter how awful a person they are outside of games or board meetings. 

[Mr. Scot]

17 minutes ago, top dawg said:

You're absolutely correct, but for me it's more than just about what can and cannot be proven, it's about a man's heart. Not saying that he does this, but if he's the type that will use the term in business, then what about behind closed doors? What about amongst family and friends? When a person gets to the point where they are bothered by the use of racial pejoratives in those more intimate types of settings, then we know that a corner has been turned.  

Wouldn't argue that.

I will be surprised if a lot of other things come out once he's finally gone (probably not till July).

[Mr. Scot]

6 minutes ago, Sam Mills Fan said:

Like I said, we saw the same thing with Greg Hardy. I don't know if it's misogyny, celebrity worship, or both; but this forum has a long history of defending people associated with this team no matter how awful a person they are outside of games or board meetings. 

It's one thing to want somebody to be a good person. All of us want that.

It's another thing entirely to completely ignore when they show that they're not.

[pantherclaw]

1 hour ago, bobsfoodbasics said:

I can't believe some of you are still defending this POS 

None of us are defending anyone. We chose not to judge a man based upon allegations. Even if the allegations are true. It's still not our place to judge.

[EgoDogg]

26 minutes ago, pantherclaw said:

None of us are defending anyone. We chose not to judge a man based upon allegations. Even if the allegations are true. It's still not our place to judge.

Unless those allegations are against other team's players / Front Office. Then in that case, many will have no issue calling them guilty almost immediately.

[pantherclaw]

31 minutes ago, EgoDogg said:

Unless those allegations are against other team's players / Front Office. Then in that case, many will have no issue calling them guilty almost immediately.

What you are describing is what most are doing. Trial by public opinion.  I've never been one to be quick to judge. In today's society, everybody is looking for a quick buck, and they don't care what they have to do to make it.  

 

 

[NJPanthers12]

5 minutes ago, pantherclaw said:

What you are describing is what most are doing. Trial by public opinion.  I've never been one to be quick to judge. In today's society, everybody is looking for a quick buck, and they don't care what they have to do to make it.  

 

 

Pure stupidity. A man with his ego doesn't just sell a team that he's maintained he will own until he dies unless guilty. The NFL has known he is guilty and has been reported to have been pushing him to sell and get out. He's guilty. These are facts. It's embarrassing that there is a portion of this fan base who still defend him.

[EgoDogg]

1 minute ago, pantherclaw said:

What you are describing is what most are doing. Trial by public opinion.  I've never been one to be quick to judge. In today's society, everybody is looking for a quick buck, and they don't care what they have to do to make it.  

  

 

Neither have I. Unfortunately for JR's situation, there is something. The fact that there are NDA's out there to keep people quiet is enough of an admission of guilt to some degree.

The fact of the matter is that nobody here knows the extent of anything, and much of it is speculation. I'm appreciative of Richardson bringing a team to the Carolina's, and giving me a team to root for for the past 20+ years. But at the same time, if what he's been accused of doing / saying is true, I can't defend that.

The same goes for players of other teams. I just hope anything that plays out is figured out, and if they're guilty, the victims are able to get the support needed. It's not my place to judge, especially based off how little information the public knows.

[pantherclaw]

Once again, I'm not defending the man, I'm just choosing not to attack him. 

NDA's are common practice to protect a company against potentially dangerous allegations.   

No, it doesn't surprise me that Richardson would do whatever he could to preserve the reputation of the franchise he built.  Selling the team was done to do just that. 

[Mr. Scot]

 

 

[Mr. Scot]