Considering a change of job

[PandaPancake]

15 hours ago, hepcat said:

I am getting married in Feb. No kids yet. The income level of Job 1 would make that a more realistic possibility. Job 2 barely pays all my bills.

There's your answer. My marriage survived a year of me being away because we didn't have money problems. And I left with a 36 hour notice

[thefuzz]

17 hours ago, hepcat said:

I am getting married in Feb. No kids yet. The income level of Job 1 would make that a more realistic possibility. Job 2 barely pays all my bills.

Barely paying your bills and getting married soon do not go hand in hand.

Go with the higher pay, and do something with it.

[hepcat]

On 11/10/2018 at 8:27 AM, thefuzz said:

Barely paying your bills and getting married soon do not go hand in hand.

Go with the higher pay, and do something with it.

Yup, that's pretty much the thinking here. Buying a house and starting a family would be almost impossible with the lower salary.

[Anybodyhome]

On 11/10/2018 at 9:27 AM, thefuzz said:

Barely paying your bills and getting married soon do not go hand in hand.

Go with the higher pay, and do something with it.

Not so fast...

Is your future wife bringing any income to the marriage? If not, then you have little choice but Job 1.

But be realistic and honest not only with yourself, but your wife-to-be. You have to know that while you're paying the bills and maybe saving a few bucks here and there, the reality is you don't sound like you'll be happy a few years down to road. A job is only a means to an end- it does not define who you are unless you allow it or want it to. If you can wash your hands of the job everyday by the time you get home and not have to deal with it after hours, then by all means take it.

[Davidson Deac II]

On 11/9/2018 at 4:21 PM, hepcat said:

I am getting married in Feb. No kids yet. The income level of Job 1 would make that a more realistic possibility. Job 2 barely pays all my bills.

Ok, I was thinking that the greater stability might be best, but if that is the case, job 1 might be the best bet.

[Davidson Deac II]

On 11/10/2018 at 9:27 AM, thefuzz said:

Barely paying your bills and getting married soon do not go hand in hand.

Go with the higher pay, and do something with it.

 

I thought barely paying the bills was standard for all newlyweds.  lol

[rayzor]

Job 1 doesn't sound like a situation that would last long. Job 2 sounds a lot more secure.

And in regards to the money, learn to live on less. Adjust your lifestyle to fit the income for the job you'd like better. Chasing after more money is just like chasing after happiness... you'll never be satisfied with what you have which means you will have a dis-satisfied life. 

Choose the life and the job that satisfies you.

[hepcat]

1 hour ago, rayzor said:

Job 1 doesn't sound like a situation that would last long. Job 2 sounds a lot more secure.

And in regards to the money, learn to live on less. Adjust your lifestyle to fit the income for the job you'd like better. Chasing after more money is just like chasing after happiness... you'll never be satisfied with what you have which means you will have a dis-satisfied life. 

Choose the life and the job that satisfies you.

Job 1 is definitely more a roll of the dice for long term job security than Job 2. I could have Job 2 for a long time in some capacity, but my salary would always be low. It's almost impossible to get a big raise not only staying in the same place but also working for a public state entity. The Job 2 salary is low enough where we might need to have a roommate should we buy a house. Job 1 eliminates that need and then some. Job 1 also offers a huge chance to grow, so the gamble might pay off. If the company continues to expand, my job role expands. I'm joining a small team responsible for company wide support, so if they keep expanding, I'd essentially be getting in on the ground floor of what could be a long term job.

[Bronn]

No question Job 1 IMHO.

One day a week off? Yes please. Especially with you being a musician. That gives you a whole day, every week, to create or do whatever the F you want. Medical or other appointments? EZPZ scheduling.

More money, yes plz.

Boring? Who cares? You get paid and a 4 day workweek for being bored.

It shouldn't be a question. The only negatives I see (highway traffic, less security) are far outweighed by the positives.

As a bonus, let Job #2 know why you're declining, but that you would hope they would either make a comparable offer to Job #1 or keep your info on file should there be other opportunities in the future. That way, maybe you put a doorstop in that door to keep it from closing completely should you change your mind down the road.

[hepcat]

39 minutes ago, Bronn said:

No question Job 1 IMHO.

One day a week off? Yes please. Especially with you being a musician. That gives you a whole day, every week, to create or do whatever the F you want. Medical or other appointments? EZPZ scheduling.

More money, yes plz.

Boring? Who cares? You get paid and a 4 day workweek for being bored.

It shouldn't be a question. The only negatives I see (highway traffic, less security) are far outweighed by the positives.

As a bonus, let Job #2 know why you're declining, but that you would hope they would either make a comparable offer to Job #1 or keep your info on file should there be other opportunities in the future. That way, maybe you put a doorstop in that door to keep it from closing completely should you change your mind down the road.

Well, it's not exactly a 4 day work week, but it's "strongly encouraged" to work 1 day from home per week, per management policy. I would probably have to do some actual work from home, but obviously being at home I'm not going to be as productive as if I were in the office and could work in my pajamas.

While Job 1 might start off as a little boring, it does offer a big chance to ramp up if the company continues growing. It's one of those roles that is speculative based on their growth projections and new offices popping up around the country (currently they have three remote locations I'd be supporting), which increases the current risk, but if they meet their growth forecast, it should be an important role. Plus the current guy they have on the team doing this job is older and not healthy.

Job 2 is very much it is what it is, it will probably stay that way for awhile with little mobility opportunities, at least early on. I know others who have worked for Job 2 and they've left for greener pastures after a few years usually. The salary is just not competitive with working for a private company...

[hepcat]

Update - I started Job 1 in early Dec and have been working for about a month. So far I like the job. A lot more responsibility and challenges than my old job, but I'm feeling confident as I ramp up. I think it was a good decision. 

[thefuzz]

47 minutes ago, hepcat said:

Update - I started Job 1 in early Dec and have been working for about a month. So far I like the job. A lot more responsibility and challenges than my old job, but I'm feeling confident as I ramp up. I think it was a good decision. 

Responsibility and Challenges are awesome.  Good luck.