ICYMI (or chose to ignore it): 25/37 (67.5%) | 357 Yards | 3 TDs | 1 INT

[TheRed]

1 minute ago, Carl Spackler said:

To be fair, there are fans in every city who act this way. I spent a summer in Cape Cod in college and my buddies, all Patriots fans of course, wouldn't hesitate to tell me that there were some fans who thought Cassel was better than Brady and that they should trade Brady for 4-5 first-round picks. 

Patriots fans are lunatics. The only time I've ever seen someone openly use the n word to describe Cam Newton was from a belligerent Patriots fan after the 2013 win over them.

I know some of these buffoons are just fickle. Others though never wanted us to draft Cam to begin with. That's what I'm referring to. From the jump it's been highlight only his failures and never discuss his success.

[BrianS]

Here, smell this coffee:

Cam's stat line targeting receivers not named Devin Funchess yesterday:

23 / 30 (76%) - 318 yards - 3 TD - 1 INT

 

At least three of our drives ended at least in part - if not largely because of - drops by Funchess.  At least two of the drops would have been catches if anyone not named Funchess had run the route - and it's not like we don't have other receivers who can run those routes.  The mistimed jump on that deep shot was just laughable.

[tiger7_88]

5 minutes ago, Carl Spackler said:

I'm not disagreeing, but do you think his pass was on target? I believe he'd tell you it wasn't.

Of course it wasn't.  Wright was the only guy open at that point and he had to either throw or run.

He *may* have had a chance to run it in so I don't know his thought process as to why that wasn't an option for him on that play.

But the throw?  Definitely not on target and for the reason that I have stated multiple times.  If you ask me, instead of handing out BLAME on that play (to Cam), how about giving the Detroit defense credit for doing a damn good job covering Carolina receivers in the endzone (none were open AT ALL until the play broke down and Wright turned around and started crossing the center of the field) on top of the fact that Detroit obviously and  intentionally "spied" Cam with a DT right in the middle of any throwing lanes for crossing patterns that would come across the field.  The Detroit DC called a *great* play and the Detroit players executed that play well.

When an opposing defense does its job well (and Detroit did), sometimes that defense is able to prevent the offense from making a play.  They did that on this play and they did it very well.  Credit to them, but why is that Newton's "fault"?

The only "blame" that should be accrued on that play should be on the head coach who went for the 2-pt conversion when the 2-pt conversion was not called for.  ANY competent head coach there kicks the XP and then puts the pressure of the game on the opposing team's shoulders with a little over a minute left.  And, as has been pointed out in other threads, making that 2-pt conversion would have placed Detroit in 4-down offense (because they would have been behind) whereas kicking the XP and tying it Detroit likely would have taken the option of playing it safe, punting, and going to overtime if the Carolina defense held them to a 4th down situation.  NOTHING ABOUT THAT SITUATION CALLED FOR TRYING FOR A 2-PT CONVERSION except for Ron Rivera's terrible game management and lack of situational awareness.

[TheRumGone]

19 minutes ago, tiger7_88 said:

So he's expected to throw passes *through* defensive tackles now.

Good to know some of y'all have realistic expectations for the man.

God you’re such a weirdo. It’s borderline creepy the lengths you go to defend Cam and you’re a 40+ year old man. Just let it go. Some people do not agree with your view. Doesn’t mean they hate Cam or whatever twisted view you have of some posters.

[Carl Spackler]

1 minute ago, tiger7_88 said:

Of course it wasn't.  Wright was the only guy open at that point and he had to either throw or run.

He *may* have had a chance to run it in so I don't know his thought process as to why that wasn't an option for him on that play.

But the throw?  Definitely not on target and for the reason that I have stated multiple times.  If you ask me, instead of handing out BLAME on that play (to Cam), how about giving the Detroit defense credit for doing a damn good job covering Carolina receivers in the endzone (none were open AT ALL until the play broke down and Wright turned around and started crossing the center of the field) on top of the fact that Detroit obviously and  intentionally "spied" Cam with a DT right in the middle of any throwing lanes for crossing patterns that would come across the field.  The Detroit DC called a *great* play and the Detroit players executed that play well.

When an opposing defense does its job well (and Detroit did), sometimes that defense is able to prevent the offense from making a play.  They did that on this play and they did it very well.  Credit to them, but why is that Newton's "fault"?

The only "blame" that should be accrued on that play should be on the head coach who went for the 2-pt conversion when the 2-pt conversion was not called for.  ANY competent head coach there kicks the XP and then puts the pressure of the game on the opposing team's shoulders with a little over a minute left.  And, as has been pointed out in other threads, making that 2-pt conversion would have placed Detroit in 4-down offense (because they would have been behind) whereas kicking the XP and tying it Detroit likely would have taken the option of playing it safe, punting, and going to overtime if the Carolina defense held them to a 4th down situation.  NOTHING ABOUT THAT SITUATION CALLED FOR TRYING FOR A 2-PT CONVERSION except for Ron Rivera's terrible game management and lack of situational awareness.

I'd have called a QB run and taken a 21-20 lead, but that's just me. Also, I remain convinced we'd just give up a pair of 20-yard gains on slants and still have lost 23-21. 

[tiger7_88]

38 minutes ago, TheRumGone said:

God you’re such a weirdo.

Such a substantive response.

[TheRumGone]

1 minute ago, tiger7_88 said:

Such a substantive response.

It’s literally all I can muster after reading you posting the same things over and over again for the past 8 years

[tiger7_88]

Just now, TheRumGone said:

It’s literally all I can muster after reading you posting the same things over and over again for the past 8 years

Uh huh.

[EgoDogg]

14 hours ago, WarHeel said:

“Worst game for a kicker in franchise history” and blaming Luke for the entire defenses ineptitude is reaching a little. Don’t ya think?

I flew down from PA to watch the Panthers vs Eagles game in 2003 (regular season). I believe that game was the worst game by a kicker in franchise history. Lost by 9. Kasay missed 3 field goals and an XP (10 points worth) that game.

[DeAngelo Beason]

Don't forget the 70 yards worth of drops Funchess had.  Really should have had over 400 yards passing.  And most likely another touchdown.

[jtm]

5 hours ago, TheRed said:

I've seen your posting history regarding Cam. You are the type of dude who relishes that moment of seeing him fail.

I'm tired of you cowards tap dancing around it. Nut up, and embrace it, and show it, or just stop showing up here already like we don't know what you really are. No one is fooled anymore.

QBs at the NFL level should be able to hit open receivers from 5 yards away.  Sorry that you think people that disagree with this are "cowards"... lol.  I could say a lot about someone that has the time to post 28,000 times to a website, but I'll leave this alone.  

[TheRed]

7 minutes ago, jtm said:

QBs at the NFL level should be able to hit open receivers from 5 yards away.

I've yet to see any fan here argue otherwise. That's not what the problem is. Cam already owned up to it like he always has every single time when he couldn't get it done.

The predicament is that every time we have one of these games where a number of players play like poo, and Cam has to pull out his usual heroics, the same angry group of Panthers fans pile in like vultures and start singing that same tired tune using one instance of a team failure to try to define Newton's career by questioning if he's the "right" QB.

[Definitely Not Trolling]

25 minutes ago, TheRed said:

I've yet to see any fan here argue otherwise. That's not what the problem is. Cam already owned up to it like he always has every single time when he couldn't get it done.

The predicament is that every time we have one of these games where a number of players play like poo, and Cam has to pull out his usual heroics, the same angry group of Panthers fans pile in like vultures and start singing that same tired tune using one instance of a team failure to try to define Newton's career by questioning if he's the "right" QB.

It's almost like the QB position is supposed to carry a team

[joeyxfresco]

1 minute ago, Definitely Not Trolling said:

It's almost like the QB position is supposed to carry a team

It’s almost like a head coach and his staff is supposed to show up to a game prepared