Coaching has failed Cam. Now is the time to get the surgery.

[KillerKat]

Yes Cam's shoulder is done. However, this coaching staff has done him no favors. They have put him in tough situations knowing that his shoulder isn't what it was. We abandon the run when we are close to the goal line for whatever reason. The last 2 calls in the red zone should've both been runs and even on the first throw, it was thrown in a good place away from the defender, but we don't have the WR to make that catch.

Norv hasn't called good red zone plays the last half of this season. Yeah Cam's throws haven't been ideal due to the shoulder, but why would Norv put him in those situations? Why does Rivera let Norv put him in those situations? Now is the time to just let Cam have the surgery and let him take whatever time he needs to heal.

Posters want to destroy Cam and bash him, but fail to realize he's the reason Rivera still has a job and that it was Rivera himself who has broken Cam's shoulder. No need to bash Cam. He's doing what he can with no help from his coaches.
 

[jackson113]

fug Cam

[KillerKat]

Just now, jackson113 said:

fug Cam

You are exactly what I'm talking about.  This fanbase is pathetic. Without Cam, Rivera would've been without a job 5 years ago. Cam has put this team on his back ever since he was drafted and the coach who he has saved over and over again is the one who broke his shoulder. You should be saying "fug Rivera".

[Growl]

Can newton makes dumb mental mistakes that even well coached QBs in upper echelon HS don't make.

 

He's a poorly coached player brought about a timid HC who was too scares to hold h accountable. 

I really don't think there's anything that can be done about it now and it maybe the for a total rebuild instead of just suffering along to middling records each season and depriving ourselves of the ability to truly build a super bowl roster.

[KillerKat]

1 minute ago, Growl said:

Can newton makes dumb mental mistakes that even well coached QBs in upper echelon HS don't make.

 

 

lol @ these false accusations that are only said to feed an agenda. Clowns. Just clowns everywhere. MVP's don't do what is claimed. Cam wouldn't have been able to carry this team if he does what you say. QBs who have been rode by their head coaches so hard, they get broken do make mistakes. Rivera broke Cam in 2016 when he started him in meaningless games. With better play calling in the redzone these last few weeks and we most likely have a winning record. You can't see that we're in the redzone, especially today, and say that calling 2 passing plays is what we needed.

[jackson113]

8 years later still piss poor fundamentals 

[CamandLuke159]

Man gobble gobble slurrrrrp the huggers will hug.

[Lumps]

Arguing why cam is done is pointless right now the fact remains

moving forward with a new owner it’ll be interesting if we move on or see how he responds to another offseason and medical attention

 honestly good either way. 

But a new coach is a must

[Carl Spackler]

I love Cam but he’s part of why we suck. His clutch gene has left the building. That said, I have hope that he can return to his former self and be solid next year. 

The rest of the team, save for CMC, Moore, Luke and a couple others can go fug themselves. 

We’re the new Browns. 

[KillerKat]

Cam has carried this team for so long and has sacrificed his body for this team. Now in his moment of weakness all he gets is "fug Cam" and personal attacks on his intelligence. 

[CamandLuke159]

Cam fails Cam... not intelligence but a lack of mental toughness.

[davos]

It's almost been a decade with him; we should know what to expect and can all clearly see he's not 100%. This includes both running and passing.

We gave him nothing over the years, never coached him up and now we're sitting on our d*cks like a bunch of losers.  We are due for a major overhaul on every front. We've got some good youngbloods but we have a defensive coach who isn't producing a good defense, awful redzone offense and poor clock management for now 9 years. Tepper will be judged mightily by his upcoming moves/non-moves.

[beastson]

I rather have Cam last season than this season. His terrible games was clearly due to time off from surgery and lack of reps, but his shoulder held up through an entire season. The injury bug hit us and our WR's just sucked, but we still fought through it. Almost won a playoff game if Funchess could fuging see the ball in the air

But this year, I want to know if Cam shoulder was sore in offseason workouts and TC. If so, why wasn't it managed better? Nobody said its not normal for it to be this way? Did Cam just ignore it? His arm just started to wear down as we get to the end here. I think that purposeful helmet to his shoulder by Pittsburgh defender probably made it worse

[Growl]

39 minutes ago, KillerKat said:

lol @ these false accusations that are only said to feed an agenda. Clowns. Just clowns everywhere. MVP's don't do what is claimed. Cam wouldn't have been able to carry this team if he does what you say. QBs who have been rode by their head coaches so hard, they get broken do make mistakes. Rivera broke Cam in 2016 when he started him in meaningless games. With better play calling in the redzone these last few weeks and we most likely have a winning record. You can't see that we're in the redzone, especially today, and say that calling 2 passing plays is what we needed.

Are you actually contending that completely imploding in a 1 minute offense is what MVPs do