Beason on Rivera

[Woodie]

6 hours ago, rippadonn said:

Cam Newton isn't going anywhere as far as Tepper is concerned. He really seems to love him some Cam. Steelers changed coaches kept Big Been. Cam's gonna get his. A healthy Cam is MVP level and a dual threat.

Coming from the Steelers organization I don't see wholesale change. It would be very Steeler-like to release a coach and promote a guy on staff already.

 

I don't think Tepper will make the call on Cam.  For one, he will leave it up to the medical team.  If his shoulder problems look to be chronic or if there's a strong likelihood that he may never be the same again, then I don't see his personal feelings about Cam influencing the decision on Cam's future in Carolina.  He won't sacrifice winning because he likes someone.  (Again, before the mob kicks in, I'm only saying if the medical reports indicate his shoulder will never be what it once was).

Tepper is also a guy that believes in letting the people do their jobs.  From the reports I've seen, he's not a micromanager who tells people how to specifically do their jobs.  He sets the objectives and only steps in when the job isn't getting done the way he wants.  So, I think, assuming he does let Hurney and Rivera go, that he will hire a GM and let him make the call on the coach along with all personnel decisions...including Cam.  And I really don't think he will make a GM hiring decision based on whether or not they want Cam.  Rather, it will be on a more broader idea of their vision for the team.

 

[Carl Spackler]

I feel like if the Panthers have employee reviews, Ron gives himself an A every year regardless of record or performance 

[KendrickPanther]

Ron Rivera needs to understand he had multiple hall of famers playing for him in Carolina. His entire tenure has been a missed opportunity. 

[Mr. Scot]

29 minutes ago, Woodie said:

I don't think Tepper will make the call on Cam.  For one, he will leave it up to the medical team.  If his shoulder problems look to be chronic or if there's a strong likelihood that he may never be the same again, then I don't see his personal feelings about Cam influencing the decision on Cam's future in Carolina.  He won't sacrifice winning because he likes someone.  (Again, before the mob kicks in, I'm only saying if the medical reports indicate his shoulder will never be what it once was).

Tepper is also a guy that believes in letting the people do their jobs.  From the reports I've seen, he's not a micromanager who tells people how to specifically do their jobs.  He sets the objectives and only steps in when the job isn't getting done the way he wants.  So, I think, assuming he does let Hurney and Rivera go, that he will hire a GM and let him make the call on the coach along with all personnel decisions...including Cam.  And I really don't think he will make a GM hiring decision based on whether or not they want Cam.  Rather, it will be on a more broader idea of their vision for the team.

 

I'd agree.

The thing about the Steeler approach is it's very dispassionate. They don't factor in sentiment about player histories, just whether or not they can help us win right now.

I've said before I think that's going to be a culture shock for some, and probably will lose Tepper some goodwill from fans. But the honest truth is it's the best approach to building a consistent winner.

[NanuqoftheNorth]

20 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

I'd agree.

The thing about the Steeler approach is it's very dispassionate. They don't factor in sentiment about player histories, just whether or not they can help us win right now.

I've said before I think that's going to be a culture shock for some, and probably will lose Tepper some goodwill from fans. But the honest truth is it's the best approach to building a consistent winner.

Lots of Panthers fans will suffer broken hearts watching their favorite players getting traded or cut in order to sustain a winning culture that lasts more than a single season.  

If it finally happens, it will have only taken a quarter century of Panthers mismanagement as well as a change in ownership to figure it out.

[Mr. Scot]

12 minutes ago, NanuqoftheNorth said:

Lots of Panthers fans will suffer broken hearts watching their favorite players getting traded or cut in order to sustain a winning culture that lasts more than a single season.  

If it finally happens, it will have only taken a quarter century of Panthers mismanagement as well as a change in ownership to figure it out.

Juat made me realize...I've been watching this team for almost half my life.

Lord have mercy 

[NanuqoftheNorth]

12 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

Just made me realize...I've been watching this team for almost half my life.

Lord have mercy 

Yes, for those of us that have been there since the Panthers inception, it has been a long and winding road. 

[Mr. Scot]

17 minutes ago, NanuqoftheNorth said:

Yes, for those of us that have been there since the Panthers inception, it has been a long and winding road. 

Well this road hasn't quite "run to my heart" yet. It's gotten close a couple of times.

Other times it's thrown my heart on the floor and kicked it repeatedly 

[NanuqoftheNorth]

"Being a Panthers fan is about the journey, not the destination."

-- Jerry Richardson

[raleigh-panther]

20 hours ago, Mr. Scot said:

Beason also recognizes that Rivera could be out of a job, contrary to what Steve Smith speculated.

Side Note: The WFNZ guys mentioned that Rivera is moving his press conference tomorrow from its usual 11am time to a little after 8am. They speculated it might be a way to get fewer media folks to show up.

Steve also said yesterday on fnz that after seeing the game Sunday it is possible that Tepper could make a change 

however, he also said, more less, that all the ancillary changes from firing a HC might be more than Tepper, an owner of 6 months was not willing to take on...ancillary meaning, all the scouts, more changes for Newton with system change, etc

[Mr. Scot]

53 minutes ago, raleigh-panther said:

Steve also said yesterday on fnz that after seeing the game Sunday it is possible that Tepper could make a change 

however, he also said, more less, that all the ancillary changes from firing a HC might be more than Tepper, an owner of 6 months was not willing to take on...ancillary meaning, all the scouts, more changes for Newton with system change, etc

Hiring a GM would fix that

[Actionman0z]

I think Rivera had this smirk on his face with his 5% bullshit because he knows in 3 weeks after 3 more crushing losses, he will be out of a job, and wont have to listen to these bullshit questions anymore. Why can't someone ask the question: After knowing how Pathetic these last 5 weeks look to the leaders in your organization and to fans, what is gonna change the last 3 weeks so that you get to look at Joe Person's dipshit haircut for another year? 

[Carl Spackler]

Just now, Actionman0z said:

I think Rivera had this smirk on his face with his 5% bullshit because he knows in 3 weeks after 3 more crushing losses, he will be out of a job, and wont have to listen to these bullshit questions anymore. Why can't someone ask the question: After knowing how Pathetic these last 5 weeks look to the leaders in your organization and to fans, what is gonna change the last 3 weeks so that you get to look at Joe Person's dipshit haircut for another year? 

Somehow I still remember your avi being Stewart

[Actionman0z]

Just now, Carl Spackler said:

Somehow I still remember your avi being Stewart

Well I live an hour north of Eugene in Salem, and I have had season tickets to the Ducks in the past. But its been Newton for a while. To tell a family secret, I've never even been to NC.