Ron Rivera has highest odds of all coaches to be fired (per Oddshark)

[jamos14]

Combine this with the Rivera's change of demeanor in the press conference this morning and I think there is a real big fire burning right now.  

 

Wish we could keep him as DC though.  I know it's impossible.....

 

 

[LinvilleGorge]

That's strong considering all the talk about Wilks basically already being out in AZ.

[MHS831]

Hate to ask, but what does "+200" mean? 

 

[jamos14]

7 minutes ago, thebigcat said:

I think you're reading the odds wrong

Nope.  +200 is the most probable according this sportsbook.

 

8 minutes ago, MHS831 said:

Hate to ask, but what does "+200" mean? 

 

 

+200 means you a 100 dollar bet would win you $200.

 

The more money you win (i.e Lewis at +900), the less likely it is to happen according to Vegas.

[jamos14]

Just now, thebigcat said:

That's if it was - not +

 

You've got it reversed

No.  There are no "favorites" since it's not a head to head matchup.  So there cannot be a "-" spread for this bet.

 

This is a prop moneyline bet.

[Montsta]

I’m pretty sure Jamos has it correct. On a money line bet the lower the number paid out on $100 bet, the higher odds Vegas sees it happening. 

For instance betting $100 for the Warriors to make the playoffs probably nets you $105. 

[kungfoodude]

3 minutes ago, jamos14 said:

No.  There are no "favorites" since it's not a head to head matchup.  So there cannot be a "-" spread for this bet.

 

This is a prop moneyline bet.

Pretty clear most here are not degenerate gamblers, based on the responses. Too bad. It's a great way to be a degenerate, IMO.

[CPcavedweller]

When you have a quarterback that hasn't practiced in 6 weeks and can't throw the ball more than 30 yards down field, what can the head coach do? Did you see our defense hold Drew Brees to 12 points with Ron Rivera calling the plays? 

This team has always gone how Cam goes. Cam is hurt and his shoulder is failing him. That is the crux of this team, not Rivera. He does not deserve to be fired nor does he deserve to be extended. Continuity will be paramount for this offense with one full season under Turner. Give him one more year and if the results aren't there, you let the entire staff go.

But seeing Rivera calling the defense was the most excited I've been watching a game all year long. The defense finally played Carolina football again. Now if Cam's should was healthy, we would normally win that game 31-12, rather than lose 12-9. 

[uncfan888]

2 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

Pretty clear most here are not degenerate gamblers, based on the responses. Too bad. It's a great way to be a degenerate, IMO.

Big cat just gets one of his accountants on retainer to handle his bets. He's too busy to learn how moneyline works 

[kungfoodude]

2 minutes ago, CPcavedweller said:

When you have a quarterback that hasn't practiced in 6 weeks and can't throw the ball more than 30 yards down field, what can the head coach do? Did you see our defense hold Drew Brees to 12 points with Ron Rivera calling the plays? 

This team has always gone how Cam goes. Cam is hurt and his shoulder is failing him. That is the crux of this team, not Rivera. He does not deserve to be fired nor does he deserve to be extended. Continuity will be paramount for this offense with one full season under Turner. Give him one more year and if the results aren't there, you let the entire staff go.

But seeing Rivera calling the defense was the most excited I've been watching a game all year long. The defense finally played Carolina football again. Now if Cam's should was healthy, we would normally win that game 31-12, rather than lose 12-9. 

You know....there is another QB on the roster who isn't injured. Just sayin'.....

[kungfoodude]

1 minute ago, uncfan888 said:

Big cat just gets one of his accountants on retainer to handle his bets. He's too busy to learn how moneyline works 

1% problems, bro.

[CPcavedweller]

Just now, kungfoodude said:

You know....there is another QB on the roster who isn't injured. Just sayin'.....

I like Taylor, but Cam at 75% gives us a better shot at winning. The coaching staff feels the same way or Cam wouldn't be playing. Many people since Cam has been here has been excited to see his back-ups, only to see them and immediately understand why Cam is the guy. He needs to be on IR so he can go seek medical care for his shoulder. If this is an Andrew Luck type injury, we could be screwed for 2019. 

However, I suspect that this issue with Cam requires surgery and that the coaching staff knows this. If they didn't think it was already to a point of surgical repair, they would've benched him and let him heal for a period of time. As soon as the season ends, it will be announced that Cam has surgery scheduled and will be out 6 to 8 months. 

[jamos14]

1 minute ago, CPcavedweller said:

I like Taylor, but Cam at 75% gives us a better shot at winning. The coaching staff feels the same way or Cam wouldn't be playing. Many people since Cam has been here has been excited to see his back-ups, only to see them and immediately understand why Cam is the guy. He needs to be on IR so he can go seek medical care for his shoulder. If this is an Andrew Luck type injury, we could be screwed for 2019. 

However, I suspect that this issue with Cam requires surgery and that the coaching staff knows this. If they didn't think it was already to a point of surgical repair, they would've benched him and let him heal for a period of time. As soon as the season ends, it will be announced that Cam has surgery scheduled and will be out 6 to 8 months. 

If his recovery time is that long, he should've been put on IR weeks ago.  That already jeopardizes missing all of training camp and preseason.

 

 

[kungfoodude]

4 minutes ago, CPcavedweller said:

I like Taylor, but Cam at 75% gives us a better shot at winning. The coaching staff feels the same way or Cam wouldn't be playing. Many people since Cam has been here has been excited to see his back-ups, only to see them and immediately understand why Cam is the guy. He needs to be on IR so he can go seek medical care for his shoulder. If this is an Andrew Luck type injury, we could be screwed for 2019. 

However, I suspect that this issue with Cam requires surgery and that the coaching staff knows this. If they didn't think it was already to a point of surgical repair, they would've benched him and let him heal for a period of time. As soon as the season ends, it will be announced that Cam has surgery scheduled and will be out 6 to 8 months. 

Isn't this the same coaching staff who kept trotting out nightmare players like Amini and Matt Kalil when better options existed? How about this, will your opinion change if we trot out Cam for the last two games, when there is literally nothing at all to play off?