Jump to content
  • Welcome!

    Register and log in easily with Twitter or Google accounts!

    Or simply create a new Huddle account. 

    Members receive fewer ads , access our dark theme, and the ability to join the discussion!

     

Jake Peetz named new RB coach


ncfan

Recommended Posts

1 hour ago, PanthersBigD said:

No, but you guys come into every one of these threads just to basically do the Marge Simpson groan because it's not the guy you would have picked. None of us know how he'll do, but I like them taking a chance on a young guy. He comes from a great coaching tree.

We hired a guy to coach runningbacks who's never coached runningbacks.

McCaffrey was pretty much the engine of our offense last season. Wouldn't you prefer to have someone with a little more experience shepherding his development?

And let's be real: We're talking about a hire by the guy who brought us OC Mike Shula, QB Coach Ken Dorsey, DC Eric Washington, ST Coach Richard Rodgers, Secondary Coach Richard Rodgers, Assistant Secondary Coach Richard Rodgers, and whose brilliant plan to fix the secondary coaching was to keep Richard Rodgers and fire Jeff Imamura (look how huge a difference that made) :thinking:

You're free to feel positive about it if you want to.  Heck, you're free to think Devin Funchess will lead the league in receptions next year if it makes you feel better.

But given Rivera's history with coaching and personnel decisions, I'd say there's cause to be...skeptical.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

5 minutes ago, MillionDollarCam said:

So Sean McVay would have been a no go for you, I'm confused because I thought you were a big proponent of his?

I've talked about how the league loves Sean McVay type coaches, and I've congratulated him for doing good work and taking responsibility for his failures.

But when it comes to coaching hires, I prefer more experienced guys.  Mike Zimmer and Frank Reich are two of the guys I've championed before.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

2 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

I've talked about how the league loves Sean McVay type coaches, and I've congratulated him for doing good work and taking responsibility for his failures.

But when it comes to coaching hires, I prefer more experienced guys.  Mike Zimmer and Frank Reich are two of the guys I've championed before.

Ah okay, my mistake, nothing wrong with that.

Rivera has surely made some questionable hires but at least Peetz is a guy who has no ties to Rivera (to my knowledge).

Hopefully Peetz works out for his own sake.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

14 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

I've talked about how the league loves Sean McVay type coaches, and I've congratulated him for doing good work and taking responsibility for his failures.

But when it comes to coaching hires, I prefer more experienced guys.  Mike Zimmer and Frank Reich are two of the guys I've championed before.

Frank Reich had never been a head coach before he took the job with the Colts. Pifff with your experience.

 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

10 minutes ago, MillionDollarCam said:

Ah okay, my mistake, nothing wrong with that.

Rivera has surely made some questionable hires but at least Peetz is a guy who has no ties to Rivera (to my knowledge).

Hopefully Peetz works out for his own sake.

I hope so, but it's kind of like hiring a history teacher to teach biology.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

28 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

Neither had Zimmer.

"Experience" doesn't necessarily mean "head coaching experience".

But in your conversations, it does. You're adamant about experience. How can you advocate for a lack of experience in one aspect such as head coach but not in another aspect such as running backs coach?

"Experience" doesn't necessarily mean "running backs coaching experience".

Link to comment
Share on other sites

1 minute ago, GRWatcher said:

But in your conversations, it does. You're adamant about experience. How can you advocate for a lack of experience in one aspect such as head coach but not in another aspect such as running backs coach?

"Experience" doesn't necessarily mean "running backs coaching experience".

This guy has experience as a position coach...for quarterbacks.

A few years ago, Andy Reid made Juan Castillo his defensive coordinator. Castillo had never been anything but an offensive line coach, but Reid figured since he was a smart guy, he could make the adjustment.

That decision helped get them both fired.

The idea is to ascend up the ladder. That's how it works, but generally speaking you have to at least have some qualification for the position.

If you wanted to make this guy the assistant runningbacks coach and hire someone with experience to be the full-fledged runningbacks coach, I could get behind that.

Handing him the keys to what's become one of our most important positions? Not so much.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Archived

This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.


  • PMH4OWPW7JD2TDGWZKTOYL2T3E.jpg

  • Topics

  • Posts

    • The bottom line is we saw long stretches this season where T-Mac wasn't even targeted.  He had games where he went an entire half without seeing a pass thrown his way, and it lead to a bunch of games with 5 or less targets.  If he's healthy and we're not up a stupid amount and only running the ball, I can't see him having more than a game or two next year with 5 or less targets. We were also only 22nd this year in pass attempts, and that was with a rookie #1 and no legitimate 2nd option for half the season.  And even then, we were only 46 pass attempts above 31st place. If we go into next season with T-Mac improved in his 2nd season and a healthy Coker for 17 games, there is absolutely no reason for us to not throw it more.  That right away increases both of their target totals without sacrificing any targets from each other or other players, add in them taking targets from the TEs and RBs on top of that, and your argument just doesn't hold water anymore. You can't look at targets/yards in a vacuum and think next year Coker just takes some from T-Mac.  You have to look at the team as a whole and our situations this year and then project what will happen next year. If he's healthy for 17 games, I'd bet my life savings that T-Mac sees increases across the board, targets/catches/yards/TDs.   Just as Coker will also see career highs in all categories, it's not one vs the other, it's shifting offensive strategy given our personnel, which next year will be much better for our passing game (QB issues aside).
    • C'mon now.... First, you can't switch up your argument once someone points out a major flaw in your point. You're saying we shouldn't expect a big increase in targets/yards for T-Mac, but then shift to talking about averages with Chase when I point out the significant leap he took there once you factor in his missing games.  He saw an increase in targets in 5 less games, averages aside, he saw a significant increase in targets in his 2nd season, what he then did with those targets is actually irrelevant in this discussion. Puka seeing no increase is pointless, as he saw such an absurd amount of targets for a rookie, it's near impossible to see an increase. But the real issue in this post is that you think I'm proving your point by showing how Waddle had to share targets with Hill. Tyreek Hill was a 1st team All Pro who was 2nd in the NFL in yards that season. If you think Jaylen Waddle sharing targets with a 1st team All Pro and a future HOFer is even remotely in the same category as T-Mac needing to share targets with Coker... then you are certifiably insane, lol. If anything, you could make the argument that Coker is to Waddle as T-Mac is to Hill in that discussion (which would then lead to a serious increase in targets/yards for T-Mac).  But even that is insane, as neither T-Mac or Coker will be as good as Hill and Waddle respectively that season.  I love both of their potential, but c'mon now, T-Mac isn't getting 119 catches for 1,700 yards and Coker isn't getting 117 for 1,350 next season.
×
×
  • Create New...