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OBJ to the Texans?

mc52beast

By mc52beast,
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Icege Grand Master

Icege

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12 hours ago, Unbreakable Split Glass said:

Why would Gettleman give him that contract a year ago and then wants to rid him now? Feels terrible for Giants fans. Hurney is so much better than Dave.

Not including the 2017 season since that was Gettleman + Hurney.

Gettleman:
40W 23L 1T (.625)
x1 NFC Championship
x3 NFC South titles
x4 playoff appearances
x4 seasons (2013, 2014, 2015, 2016)

Hurney:
93W 99L (.484)
x1 NFC Championship
x2 NFC South titles
x3 playoff appearances
x12 seasons as Panthers' GM (2002, 2003, 2004, 2005, 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012, 2018)


If we look include Hurney's time as Director of Player Operations in 1998, then the record is 97W 111L (.466). Can we please stop this ridiculous narrative that he is/was a better GM?

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2 minutes ago, Icege said:

Not including the 2017 season since that was Gettleman + Hurney.

Gettleman:
40W 23L 1T (.625)
x1 NFC Championship
x3 NFC South titles
x4 playoff appearances
x4 seasons (2013, 2014, 2015, 2016)

Hurney:
93W 99L (.484)
x1 NFC Championship
x2 NFC South titles
x3 playoff appearances
x12 seasons as Panthers' GM (2002, 2003, 2004, 2005, 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012, 2018)


If we look include Hurney's time as Director of Player Operations in 1998, then the record is 97W 111L (.466). Can we please stop this ridiculous narrative that he  is/was a better GM?

Pretty sure you're dealing with one of our repeat nimrods returning from his latest ban.

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Wasn't it the Giants owner that wanted to keep OBJ and was vocal about it? Guy gets his payday and then gets hurt, has an embarrassing video come out and what ever else I haven't cared to follow. One of the kind of questions the Giants have to be asking is a locker room with OBJ the place they want to bring a possible high pick at QB? Hell if I know but they need a line and a QB so why not look at the possibilities and see what you could get for a valuable resource. It's like AB, the talent is there but so is the risk and cost. 

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12 minutes ago, Icege said:

Not including the 2017 season since that was Gettleman + Hurney.

Gettleman:
40W 23L 1T (.625)
x1 NFC Championship
x3 NFC South titles
x4 playoff appearances
x4 seasons (2013, 2014, 2015, 2016)

Hurney:
93W 99L (.484)
x1 NFC Championship
x2 NFC South titles
x3 playoff appearances
x12 seasons as Panthers' GM (2002, 2003, 2004, 2005, 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012, 2018)


If we look include Hurney's time as Director of Player Operations in 1998, then the record is 97W 111L (.466). Can we please stop this ridiculous narrative that he  is/was a better GM?

Cant put the last two seasons on Hurney. Dave left him with old players on the defensive side and signed an average LT to the jackpot based off his rookie season. Hurney will rebuild this defense.

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25 minutes ago, Unbreakable Split Glass said:

Cant put the last two seasons on Hurney. Dave left him with old players on the defensive side and signed an average LT to the jackpot based off his rookie season. Hurney will rebuild this defense.

With that logic, Hurneys first two seasons dont count either, which means no NFC Championship game for him and STILL a losing record (75-85-1). That is a horse poo cop out for folks that know they're wrong and cant argue otherwise, and it only HURTS your argument further even when applied. Hurney left Gettleman with zero cap space for 3 seasons and he still made chicken salad without raisins out of chicken poo with raisins

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36 minutes ago, Icege said:

With that logic, Hurneys first two seasons dont count either, which means no NFC Championship game for him and STILL a losing record (75-85-1). That is a horse poo cop out for folks that know they're wrong and cant argue otherwise, and it only HURTS your argument further even when applied. Hurney left Gettleman with zero cap space for 3 seasons and he still made chicken salad without raisins out of chicken poo with raisins

Dave’s SB team consisted of mainly Hurney’s draft pick. What did Dave give Hurney other than CMC and KK? Shaq, Butler, KB, Funch

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3 minutes ago, Unbreakable Split Glass said:

Dave’s SB team consisted of mainly Hurney’s draft pick. What did Dave give Hurney other than CMC and KK? Shaq, Butler, KB, Funch

What did Hurney's team consist of when he went to the SB? Mainly Seifert's draft picks?

Dont forget that Hurney has cap space despite Kalil's trash contract when Gettleman had to work with having no cap space due to the deals to DWill, JStew, and others that Hurney handed out.

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Just now, Icege said:

What did Hurney's team consist of when he went to the SB? Mainly Seifert's draft picks?

Dont forget that Hurney has cap space despite Kalil's trash contract when Gettleman had to work with having no cap space due to the deals to DWill, JStew, and others that Hurney handed out.

Peppers, Foster, Witherspoon, Wesley, Gross, Manning

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